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Re:Challenging the myth that the rich are specially-talented... by nickpsecurity on Sunday May 29, 2016 @01:05PM (#11797103)
My theory is it's a cartel of cartels. It was always a possibility given all the markets naturally seem to develop oligopolies and shift to cartel-like behavior. Buying off politicians to protect profit or market share was also common. So, what happened is that they started acting collectively for whatever interests them. They still compete or argue for other things but certain laws and trends are valuable for all rich capitalists.

Project Censored published a great report that surveys many of the organizations, their boards, and so on. First report whose theory is very similar to my own research.

http://projectcensored.org/the-global-1-exposing-the-transna...

As you can see, the boards have considerable overlap where people who appear to be competing in one sector are working together in another. There's also a clear incentive, per doctrine of maximizing selfish gain, for board members and CEO's to all give each other ridiculously high compensation while driving it down for laborers. The reason: they can. Why else?

So, it's a combination of corrupt politicians, elites at CEO/board level, and media whose boards work similarly. The worst part is that the media is critical to changing the situation but has financial incentive to avoid that ever happening. That's why they so deviously self-censor on these issues to the point Americans can't get mad enough about the specific problem to do something with specific solutions. Media never presents either. Instead, works on side issues or total distractions (esp shootings or celebs) that prevent threats to stability of plutocracy.

EDIT: Given not everyone likes this source, I'd be interested in any similar data and analysis from academics published in a peer-reviewed journal. No paywalls, though. Can't fight elitism with more elitism. ;)

Re:Challenging the myth that the rich are specially-talented... by ommunist on Sunday May 29, 2016 @01:39PM (#11797283)
I am giving you the important data point. 2010. Lady Barbara Judge in Astana. 2015 UK is building 5 new nuclear power stations, and public is generally unaware of the fact.
Re:Challenging the myth that the rich are specially-talented... by nickpsecurity on Sunday May 29, 2016 @02:55PM (#11797680)
Her background is like a whose-who of scheming companies and groups. She was apparently pretty effective, too. Not that great an example, though, given people only care about nuclear so much.

Our best example in recent times is still 2008. In this case, the elites crash the whole system, get paid off for it, and get criminal immunity. This kind of event and resulting deal should be non-existent in a democracy. Whereas, in Iceland, they overthrew the dirty politicians, jailed them, jailed the bankers involved, seized banks, and reoriented their banks and news to prevent such things in future. Healthy democracy in action.

The media's role in keeping elite's schemes going is pivotal. I think the strategy has to be on them. Anyone doing a revolution should hit the media rather than just the government. Make sure each side gets a say with reporters digging into root problems and potential solutions. People can then push for what they believe will work through regular, government structures. They can't act without being informed. So, corporate media is root problem here.

Note: I've observed the same thing in Russia. Their media, at least RT, is even worse as it's basically a government spokespiece. Ours still compete with each other with at least several calling out government in big ways without anyone getting shot. The times they self-censor and are pervasively corrupt are protecting capitalist class that funds them. So, huge problem, but enough media protection here to maybe accomplish something. I'm more worried for Russians given Putin's recent laws on bloggers, etc plus risk journalists face in general.

Re:Challenging the myth that the rich are specially-talented... by ommunist on Sunday May 29, 2016 @03:00PM (#11797705)
In Russia censorship was always the cage. In the US it was always a skeleton.
Re:Challenging the myth that the rich are specially-talented... by nickpsecurity on Sunday May 29, 2016 @03:29PM (#11797836)
That's an interesting way to state it. Could you elaborate to make sure I'm understanding the metaphor?
Re:Challenging the myth that the rich are specially-talented... by ommunist on Sunday May 29, 2016 @03:54PM (#11797931)
In the US professional media participants are literally trained not to touch sensitive parts of the social discourse. Hence the political correctness - the modern doublespeak, and natural avoidance of entire massive sets of facts underlying important social problems and drivers. E.g. no reports in the U.S. media on French toxic waste dumping to the sea within Somalian territorial waters. But! A hell lot of publications about 'somalian pirates' afterwards. When these poor fishermen were literally left without source of food not only for them, but for their next generations.

Just in case I am too thin, the US journalist will rarely if ever publish fact that will cost him a career prospect, or give him label of 'red'. Even if he or she has certain sympathies. This is self-censorship and it is very effective.

Re:Challenging the myth that the rich are specially-talented... by nickpsecurity on Sunday May 29, 2016 @04:56PM (#11798181)
Appreciate the clarification and very interesting example with Somalia situation. I hadn't heard of that one despite avoiding corporate media where possible. That was kind of your point, though. ;)

So, I guess you're analogy means that the Russians in power (eg government) force the journalists to shut-up whereas in America the corporations and journalists do it themselves on sensitive topics for selfish gain? I'd agree with that if it's what your metaphor meant.