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Re:Avatar's green fascism by diego_moita on Tuesday March 09, 2010 @06:24PM (#1179675)
This is just too close to Godwin's law to be taken seriously.

"And what is fascism anyway? Good luck finding a concise or clear definition. We are kind of foggy on that. Presently, the word is most commonly used to cast aspersions on a particular political stance or belief. The implication is that if you are fascist you seek to impose a vision of the world on a group of people and that vision generally contains some notion of moral superiority."

What is the point of defining something as X if X can mean anything to anyone?

'Fascism' should mean a militarist, ultra-nationalist and authoritarian political regime within a precise moment in history. If it can mean anything than everything is fascist.

Re:Avatar's green fascism by kevinpet on Tuesday March 09, 2010 @06:37PM (#1179704)
Fascism is an economic system based on government control of nominally private enterprises.

If fascism is limited to the political regimes within a precise moment in history, we lose a useful term.

Re:Avatar's green fascism by _delirium on Tuesday March 09, 2010 @07:15PM (#1179770)
We also lose a useful term if we define it that broadly, though. It's not only an economic system, but a complete political/economic system that comes with a set of aesthetics and a particular focus on nationalism, a strong state, and a strong leader.

Just government control of nominally private enterprises is much more common than fascist regimes; it'd also include the UK in the heydey of the East India Company, modern-day China, and even to some extent modern-day France.

Re:Avatar's green fascism by elblanco on Friday March 12, 2010 @02:23AM (#1186056)
The problem with that definition is that it also defines rather well most available instances of Communist states. So are you saying Fascism=Communism? Or that those states are not exemplars of "real" Communism but are in fact exemplars of Fascism?
Re:Avatar's green fascism by msg on Tuesday March 09, 2010 @07:41PM (#1179833)
Berlusconi's Italy might also qualify.
Re:Avatar's green fascism by brazzy on Wednesday March 10, 2010 @09:11AM (#1180906)
You yourself demonstrate nicely that to many, the term is "useful" only as partisan political ammunition, for your "definition" excludes so many of the defining features of fascism (nationalism, authoritarianism, militarism) that it is completely meaningless.