Re:Peter Thiel, Tech Billionaire, Reveals Secret War with Ga...
by GrumpyYoungMan on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @10:36PM
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Just because they published things that have been good journalism allows them carte blanche to publish things that break the law and are morally reprehensible? I find this logic baffling.
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Re:Peter Thiel, Tech Billionaire, Reveals Secret War with Ga...
by nikcub on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @10:53PM
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I find the logic that freedom of speech only applies to journalism you agree with baffling.
It's straight out of the 21st century authoritarians playbook - nobody is dumb enough to admit that their actions are against the principles of freedom, but people are dumb enough to agree with those same actions when you simply redefine who those principles apply to.
It's the new-newspeak, see how Putin has as much power as any Soviet leader but with the veneer of democracy, popular support and individual freedom.
Re:Peter Thiel, Tech Billionaire, Reveals Secret War with Ga...
by robbiemitchell on Thursday May 26, 2016 @09:35AM
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Just to be clear, the freedom of speech is not absolute. It _is_ possible to violate someone else's First Amendment rights while exercising your own, to the point where a judge or jury must decide who is at fault (if anyone) and why. The limits to free speech have been shaped over time by laws and by precedent. In this case, a jury found that Gawker went too far.
Re:Peter Thiel, Tech Billionaire, Reveals Secret War with Ga...
by zardgiv on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @10:40PM
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I was directly replying to the comment that "They have no moral high ground, noble principles, or higher purpose." Actually reading the context would make the logic much less baffling.
Re:Peter Thiel, Tech Billionaire, Reveals Secret War with Ga...
by GrumpyYoungMan on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @10:50PM
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Okay, your argument then seems to be "They do have a moral high ground, noble principles, or higher purpose some of the time but the rest of the time they break the law". That's not much improvement, I would think.
Re:Peter Thiel, Tech Billionaire, Reveals Secret War with Ga...
by zardgiv on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @10:56PM
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I don't feel like you're really trying to engage critically here.
Re:Peter Thiel, Tech Billionaire, Reveals Secret War with Ga...
by GrumpyYoungMan on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @11:01PM
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The feeling is mutual, sir.
Re:Peter Thiel, Tech Billionaire, Reveals Secret War with Ga...
by Shivetya on Thursday May 26, 2016 @05:55AM
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the sex tape was reprehensible but outing? Aren't we like ten to twenty years past that point? Its not really different than the press publishing cheating stories these days.
Re:Peter Thiel, Tech Billionaire, Reveals Secret War with Ga...
by robbiemitchell on Thursday May 26, 2016 @04:08PM
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> Aren't we like ten ... years past that point?
Not actually debating the merits of outing a public figure, but regarding your timeline, this was 2007, or 9 years ago, so it's possible that no, we were not past "that point" at that point. However you are defining that point.