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Re:Comparison of British, American and French Systems of Jus... by sandworm101 on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @04:14AM (#11768374)
>> premeditated murder

If it isn't premeditated, it isn't murder. Perhaps the more accurate term is "premeditated killing" in which the outcome is premeditated. But in murder only the act must be premeditated, not the consequence. Punching someone and thereby causing their death is murder, you don't need to be trying to kill someone in order to murder them, but it isn't a premeditated killing.

Re:Comparison of British, American and French Systems of Jus... by gbuk2013 on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @05:16AM (#11768575)
At least in the UK, "murder" requires a proven intention to kill. Your example of a punch killing a person would fall under "manslaughter by unlawful and dangerous act" but not murder.
Re:Comparison of British, American and French Systems of Jus... by sandworm101 on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @09:27AM (#11769568)
I disagree. Imho all you need is the intention to do harm.
Re:Comparison of British, American and French Systems of Jus... by gbuk2013 on Friday June 03, 2016 @06:14AM (#11829356)
Not just any harm will do - it has to be GBH[1] and it has to be a "virtually certain" result of the action.[2]

IMHO your example of a punch would not pass this test.

[1] http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/h_to_k/homicide_murder_and_mansl...

[2] http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld199798/ldjudgmt/j...