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Re:For first time since 1880s, more young Americans live wit... by jellicle on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @10:01PM (#11767166)
But in the flyover states where housing is admittedly cheap compared to the coasts, so too are the wages.

"Cheap" housing only goes so far when your employment is 30 hours per week at the local Walmart for $9/hour. You're trying to pretend this is some "coastal" phenomenon, but you can't get there from here - you can't get the number of young people who have left the nest down from 60+% to just barely over 30% without it involving the entire country.

Young people in middle America can't afford to move out either.

Re:For first time since 1880s, more young Americans live wit... by Turing_Machine on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @11:31PM (#11767489)
For instance, in Ohio (as "flyover" as it gets :-)) the median household income is $45,749, and the median house sales price is $135,500, or about 3x median income.

In California the median household income is $67,458, and the median house sales price is $405,000, or about 6x median income.

So no, it is not actually true that the lower housing prices in flyover states are offset by lower incomes. Housing in California is proportionally twice as expensive as it is in Ohio.

Re:For first time since 1880s, more young Americans live wit... by godzillabrennus on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @03:10AM (#11768149)
Less than half of americans make more than $30k / year these days.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/25/1-in-2-working-americans-m...

Re:For first time since 1880s, more young Americans live wit... by saiya-jin on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @05:34AM (#11768623)
household income != individual salary in many, if not most of the cases.
Re:For first time since 1880s, more young Americans live wit... by Turing_Machine on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @01:52PM (#11771694)
Right. Households often have multiple incomes. That doesn't help the OP's point, though, since people in Ohio are more likely to live in a multi-income household than people in California.

If you look at per capita income instead of household, Ohio gives $135,500/$26,937 ~= 5, and California gives $405,000/$30,441 = 13 By that standard, California is 2.6 times more expensive instead of only 2.

Re:For first time since 1880s, more young Americans live wit... by dionidium on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @10:13PM (#11767214)
I agree that it's a country-wide phenomenon. But everything else in your post is almost comically out of touch, which is to say that there are obviously other factors.
Re:For first time since 1880s, more young Americans live wit... by pmiller2 on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @10:45PM (#11767348)
Not sure why you say that. GP post perfectly describes my home town in BFE Midwest.
Re:For first time since 1880s, more young Americans live wit... by dionidium on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @11:28PM (#11767479)
Because it's ignorant of basic facts. The median household income in the St. Louis metro area is $55k. It's $79k in the San Francisco metro, which is obviously quite a bit higher.

But you'd need to earn 159k per year in San Francisco to match the spending power of that $55k in St. Louis. And even that wouldn't be nearly enough to reach parity in home purchasing. Housing is 790% more expensive in San Francisco!

I get that it's fun to joke about flyover country, but the numbers are what they are. People simply are not struggling to move out of the house in St. Louis in the same way that they are in the Bay Area, for example.

Which is to say, once again, that there must be other factors at play.

http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/st.-louis-mo/san-fr...