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Re:Microsoft criticized for changing the pop-up box encourag... by DanBC on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @06:23PM (#11766009)
Because people's computers work on Windows 8, and stop working after "upgrading" to windows 10. Those people don't care that it's a 3rd party driver causing the problem. (If it is; it's hard to know sometimes.)

Here's one example, but there are plenty of others: https://www.asus.com/uk/Notebooks/ASUS_EeeBook_X205TA/HelpDe...

Here's the faqs that begin "After installing Windows 10".

https://www.asus.com/uk/support/FAQ/1016168/

https://www.asus.com/uk/support/FAQ/1016490/

https://www.asus.com/uk/support/FAQ/1016169/

https://www.asus.com/uk/support/FAQ/1013137/

https://www.asus.com/uk/support/FAQ/1015923/

https://www.asus.com/uk/support/FAQ/1015947/

https://www.asus.com/uk/support/FAQ/1015970/

And it affects network connectivity, so you'll need to use a different machine to look find these FAQs: https://www.asus.com/uk/support/FAQ/1015954/

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Re:Microsoft criticized for changing the pop-up box encourag... by ryanlol on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @07:15PM (#11766361)
Driver issues caused by the OEMs incompetence make the computer the shitty product, not windows.

We don't blame microsoft for superfish either, do we? Or hard drive failures?

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Re:Microsoft criticized for changing the pop-up box encourag... by mook on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @02:26AM (#11767989)
As long as it's Microsoft causing the upgrade prompt, it's their problem. As long as the (terrible) drivers worked before the upgrade, it should check that drivers are available for the hardware before trying to go through with the upgrade.

There's an analogous situation with Android phones; Google doesn't try to upgrade every phone to the newest release, because they can't guarantee it will work afterwards.

I'd still blame the OEMs, of course, when the hardware stops working after installing from a retail Windows 10 disc. But in that case it was from a user-initiated action, at least.

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Re:Microsoft criticized for changing the pop-up box encourag... by ryanlol on Wednesday May 25, 2016 @07:06AM (#11768915)
Do the OEMs suddenly not have a responsibility to keep their drivers working on the OS they picked?

>it should check that drivers are available for the hardware before trying to go through with the upgrade

From what I've gathered the issue tends to be with drivers not working, rather than not existing. This is again entirely the OEMs fault, there isn't any feasible way for MSFT to verify that the drivers aren't broken.

These OEMs knew very well that microsoft was going to do this but still neglected to fix their drivers.

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