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Re:Black Market Ride-Sharing Increases in Austin by toomuchtodo on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @04:52PM (#11765359)
Startup culture is more libertarian than socially progressive. Socially progressive would be Austin providing a robust public transportation system, thereby removing the need for ridesharing.

Wouldn't it be more efficient for public transportation to be provided via taxes and user fees versus Uber and Lyft siphoning off of the flow of transportation payments for their shareholders? That seems inefficient to me.

Re:Black Market Ride-Sharing Increases in Austin by crispy2000 on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @05:32PM (#11765669)
More efficient? By what measurement? Certainly not the consumer's time nor the taxpayers' money!

Billion dollar light rail trains that roll empty are not a terribly efficient use of money. Buses are more flexible, but waiting for a bus then having to walk from the bus stop home is apparently an unsatisfactory use of time to many passengers.

A system that connects a passenger with the nearest available driver and doesn't take too much for their part in the transaction would seem to be efficient in time and money for both the passenger and driver. In addition, it provides a source of employment for people who are looking for work and meet the criteria.

Not saying that Uber, Lyft, and other "ride sharing" services are all on the side of the angels, but their success points to a need which they are meeting.

Re:Black Market Ride-Sharing Increases in Austin by toomuchtodo on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @05:39PM (#11765724)
You're post makes a whole lot of assumptions about ridesharing.

1. Uber drivers are compensated sufficiently for their time and expenses (research has shown this isn't true, Uber drivers scrape by just like cabbies)

2. That a consumer's time is more valuable than having public transportation available to everyone (Ridesharing > Buses/bike shares/etc)

3. That expensive rail is one of the only options.

The solution is a mix of buses, bicycle sharing, and electric self-driving cars. How we get there is the tricky part.

Re:Black Market Ride-Sharing Increases in Austin by crispy2000 on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @06:02PM (#11765891)
Didn't assume either 1, 2, nor 3. 1. Perhaps your definition of "compensated sufficiently" doesn't jibe with those of the thousands of drivers who voluntarily choose to drive for Uber and similar services. 2. SOME consumers consider their time too valuable to take public transportation as you have defined it. 3. I mentioned light rail AND buses in my decidedly non-encyclopedic comment about efficiency of ridesharing. Those are two of the main options currently available in Austin.

Definitely, "the solution is a mix", but the components and proportions of that mix are best left to the consumers, not solely to central planners, whether in governments or in large corporations. Indeed, since the vote, local rideshare companies have sprung up in Austin, perhaps better suited to the needs of Austinites.

Re:Black Market Ride-Sharing Increases in Austin by toomuchtodo on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @06:49PM (#11766196)
> Indeed, since the vote, local rideshare companies have sprung up in Austin, perhaps better suited to the needs of Austinites.

So what you're saying is a regulated free market is driving innovation. Go figure.