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Re:Terms and conditions word by word by reitanqild on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @12:01PM (#11762644)
Not a lawyer but used to read EULAs etc carefully.

At some point I gave in and decided a better approach would be to just point out that no sane consumer can read all that.

Re:Terms and conditions word by word by pluma on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @12:10PM (#11762741)
In Germany at least (and thus maybe most of the EU?) no customer actually has to read any of it. Anything in a ToS/EULA that could be considered "surprising" is unenforceable and therefore void.

Of course that means the exact enforceable contents of every ToS ultimately boil down to case law but for customers this is a much better solution than "you may have accidentally sold your soul".

Re:Terms and conditions word by word by nihonde on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @12:14PM (#11762773)
That's more or less true in America, too. Consumer contracts are generally subject to the "unconscionability" test: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconscionability#United_State.... It's not the same as "surprising", but the sentiment is roughly the same.
Re:Terms and conditions word by word by ghayes on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @03:34PM (#11764812)
Re:Terms and conditions word by word by nihonde on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @12:04PM (#11762666)
The good news is that if you wait long enough, they'll incorporate terms from URIs that are dead. I can't tell you how many commercial contracts I review from the 2000's that are governed by 404 pages.
Re:Terms and conditions word by word by eggman on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @01:15PM (#11763411)
You took the path of reading EULA's carefully?! These documents are painfully lacking in clarity and sincerity. Content generators basically chump subscribers into clicking "I Agree".