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Re:TSA's Head of Security 'Removed' from Office by marcus_holmes on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @11:40AM (#11762444)
I had to re-read that twice before I got the meaning... I was thinking "hang on, so everyone carries guns but knife murders are up? what?" but what I think you're saying is that law-abiding people don't shoot people. Well, duh...

There's this really straightforward clear correlation between number of guns and amount of gun violence. Everyone else in the world gets this. Americans don't for some reason. I'm always curious why Americans don't get this. Y'all seem perfectly intelligent and reasonable otherwise.

Re:TSA's Head of Security 'Removed' from Office by zeveb on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @12:51PM (#11763159)
> what I think you're saying is that law-abiding people don't shoot people. Well, duh...

No, OP complains that in the U.S. 'everyone' can carry firearms legally (not actually true: felons, wife-beaters, citizens of New Jersey & similar folks are prohibited from carrying firearms) and thus we have a high murder rate. I pointed out that the issue is not the legal right, since the folks committing the murders are not, for the most part, legally armed.

> I'm always curious why Americans don't get this.

There's this really straightforward clear correlation between arms-bearing and liberty (viz.: an unarmed man is fundamentally not free). Americans seem to get this; many other folks don't for some reason. I'm always curious why not.

Re:TSA's Head of Security 'Removed' from Office by marcus_holmes on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @08:40PM (#11766802)
because I'm happy to give up my freedom to carry a gun in return for the knowledge that other people are similarly unarmed and therefore unable to shoot me.

It's what we do in a polite society; restrict our freedoms to respect the rights of others. I don't play music loudly on public transport for the same reason.

Re:TSA's Head of Security 'Removed' from Office by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @08:52PM (#11766865)
How about the knowledge that other people know that you are unarmed, and therefore are free to attack you with fists or knives without fear of you shooting them?

This is not idle rhetoric. Britain has much lower gun violence statistics than the US, but higher total violence statistics.