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Re:Autonomous Mini Rally Car Teaches Itself to Powerslide by guscost on Monday May 23, 2016 @12:07AM (#11751803)
And if I'm not mistaken professional race drivers are faster without autonomous stability systems running, because consumer-grade traction control "plays it safe" so to speak.

Could a traction control/autonomous steering system be designed to push the envelope and risk losing traction as effectively as (or far more effectively than) a pro driver? Almost certainly, but I'm not sure how hard of a problem that will be.

Re:Autonomous Mini Rally Car Teaches Itself to Powerslide by glaberficken on Monday May 23, 2016 @07:34AM (#11753161)
That's true about consumer grade stability systems which are engineered with great margins for safety.

As you can see by looking at the F1 active suspension ban in the 90s, when tuned for performance, these systems provided a real edge to even the best pro-drivers.

Re:Autonomous Mini Rally Car Teaches Itself to Powerslide by semi-extrinsic on Monday May 23, 2016 @03:42PM (#11756317)
But the active suspension system etc. isn't actually in the "autonomous driving" category, it's an aerodynamics/grip improvement. What it does (maintain perfect ride height) isn't something humans do anyway.
Re:Autonomous Mini Rally Car Teaches Itself to Powerslide by glaberficken on Monday May 23, 2016 @05:25PM (#11757139)
yeah good point, what about brakes and accelerators that actuate via electronics/cpu instead of mechanically like in the old days? Humans press brake/accelerate pedals...
Re:Autonomous Mini Rally Car Teaches Itself to Powerslide by semi-extrinsic on Tuesday May 24, 2016 @12:17PM (#11762813)
If you take ESP/ABS and other driver assists out of the picture, there's no real difference between drive-by-wire and hydraulic couplings (servos etc.). And if you want a fully non-servo car, it's early 1960's for you.