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Re:Snowden calls for whistleblower shield after claims by ne... by slg on Sunday May 22, 2016 @02:59PM (#11749782)
Once again, this is a naive and idealistic viewpoint that doesn't have a place in real world governing. There is a reason why even countries like Switzerland have intelligence and military arms. Simply "minding your own business" only goes so far and isn't a fool-proof protection scheme.
Re:Snowden calls for whistleblower shield after claims by ne... by mixmastamyk on Sunday May 22, 2016 @03:06PM (#11749805)
Where did I mention closing military or intelligence? The question at hand is whether the govt should be more transparent.
Re:Snowden calls for whistleblower shield after claims by ne... by slg on Sunday May 22, 2016 @03:14PM (#11749842)
>Where did I mention closing military or intelligence?

Where did I mention closing them? I am just making the connection those are two aspects of governing that require some level of secrecy. If countries "minding their own business" need secrecy there, then it isn't a path to the US abandoning secrecy.

>The question at hand is whether the govt should be more transparent.

If that is your argument, I agree with it. But that wasn't the original argument. The original argument was complete transparency and "the government keeping secrets first place is inherently amoral."

Re:Snowden calls for whistleblower shield after claims by ne... by mixmastamyk on Sunday May 22, 2016 @05:06PM (#11750292)
> why even countries like Switzerland have intelligence and military arms

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_%28intelligence%29

I'm not interested in arguing absolutes, as perhaps the original ancestor was.