Re:There’s No Such Thing as Free Will
by Godel_unicode on Saturday May 21, 2016 @11:00PM
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I misspoke, ^your metaphor^reality
I recommend you read the works of the scientist upon which my pseudonym is based (not the Unicode part, that's just a dig at HN for the type of characters they allow)
Briefly, you cannot fully describe a complex system using merely the axioms of a less complex system (or more simplistically, all metaphors are (subtlety but importantly) wrong).
This is especially true of quantum mechanics, but in general it's a good rule to keep in mind. It prevents comfortable but naïve assumptions like "physics is just Newton because that's what we can perceive", or assuming that cognition is just summing neurons together.
In every aspect of life, you can safely assume that It's More Complicated Than That.
Re:There’s No Such Thing as Free Will
by SAI_Peregrinus on Friday May 20, 2016 @07:00PM
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Of course, there's Chaos theory. That deals entirely with deterministic processes so complex their outcomes can only be determined via probabilistic methods.
I say "deterministic/probabilistic" because I am thinking about physical laws; i.e., what we know of physics and quantum mechanics. The intent is to exclude the idea that consciousness is somehow above the rules of cause and effect. It probably would be safer to just say "deterministic" to prevent all the magic-shoehorning people sometimes attempt with QM, but I was being pedantic.
> In your metaphor, consciousness is the learning system which is used to generate the model which drives the car. Our brains are semi-supervised learning, and our models get retrained when they drift far enough.
No, in my metaphor, consciousness is totally unrelated to learning, as the article suggested. In my metaphor consciousness is basically just part of the network stack.