Re:Tesla Announces $2B Public Offering to Accelerate Model 3...
by ryguytilidie on Wednesday May 18, 2016 @08:57PM
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Do you think that putting a disclaimer of your sketchy behavior excuses your sketchy behavior?
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Re:Tesla Announces $2B Public Offering to Accelerate Model 3...
by hueving on Wednesday May 18, 2016 @10:02PM
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That's par for the finance world. They will sell you shit with a smile as long as it pays commission even though they would never touch it (or are even short it).
Re:Tesla Announces $2B Public Offering to Accelerate Model 3...
by martin1975 on Thursday May 19, 2016 @12:01AM
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Kind of like "collateralized debt obligation", a.k.a. shit wrapped in shit.... circa 2008.
Re:Tesla Announces $2B Public Offering to Accelerate Model 3...
by spyspy on Friday May 20, 2016 @08:54AM
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For anyone whose knowledge of this starts and ends with The Big Short, CDOs are not inherently bad. They're just a structure for divvying up assets based on risk. The problem up to 2008 was that the risks were downplayed/hidden by the banks and the credit rating agencies.
Re:Tesla Announces $2B Public Offering to Accelerate Model 3...
by eru on Sunday May 22, 2016 @09:01PM
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We do the equivalent of CDO to our networks at Google. (Ie tcp can't deal with packet loss, so needs the best tranche; especially if user facing. Some long running copy operations with fountain codes only care about total throughput, not lost packages, so get the `equity' tranches.)
Re:Tesla Announces $2B Public Offering to Accelerate Model 3...
by cjarrett on Thursday May 19, 2016 @11:59AM
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If someone is thinking citation needed:
http://www.sec.gov/spotlight/enf-actions-fc.shtml
Re:Tesla Announces $2B Public Offering to Accelerate Model 3...
by monochromatic on Wednesday May 18, 2016 @10:24PM
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Aren't they by definition short any security they're selling you?
Re:Tesla Announces $2B Public Offering to Accelerate Model 3...
by TrickedOut on Wednesday May 18, 2016 @10:58PM
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No - when they sell you a security, the assumption is they were long until then (holding it) and then either disposed of their entire long position or disposed part of it (in which case they continue holding it long.)
The case where they are selling you something and are SHORT the product is a special case which requires more work usually. The most egregious case was the ABACUS deal (http://www.theworkingeconomy.com/simple-explanations-of-econ...) where Goldman was actively short the product and needed a dumb customer to unload the other side (enter Fabulous Fab and his widows orphans: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-goldman-emails-idUSTRE63O2...)
Re:Tesla Announces $2B Public Offering to Accelerate Model 3...
by hueving on Thursday May 19, 2016 @12:05AM
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No, not if they are just acting as a broker.
Re:Tesla Announces $2B Public Offering to Accelerate Model 3...
by pdabbadabba on Thursday May 19, 2016 @09:54AM
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Seems to me that depends on the actual quality of the report. If the report is substantively useful, and not hopelessly biased, then I don't see anything too sketchy about this.