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Re:Open Whisper Systems Partners with Google on End-To-end E... by cm3 on Wednesday May 18, 2016 @06:45PM (#11726632)
This cultural reference I get even less than the first one, but I'll just ignore the references.

I'm not sure if you're missing the context. This branch of the thread forked off me asking the same thing as another poster, namely the likelihood of being bothered by IP or Copyright claims for a real, proper clean room implementation of the protocol, zero code copied, assuming there is sufficient documentation available.

Oracle vs Google is relevant, but it seems we're talking past each other and maybe I'm missing a point you're making.

Re:Open Whisper Systems Partners with Google on End-To-end E... by tptacek on Wednesday May 18, 2016 @06:46PM (#11726635)
Sorry, I'm just eager to deploy Frinkiac.

I simply disagree with you that Moxie Marlinspike is in any way accountable for what Oracle does with Java.

I also take exception to the argument that Open Whisper Systems needs to do something to mitigate your false impression that they've disallowed developers from using their documentation. They have not, nobody has credibly claimed otherwise, even the Wire people, and so I don't think it's proper to suggest that OWS take this "opportunity" to address a fictitious concern.

Re:Open Whisper Systems Partners with Google on End-To-end E... by cm3 on Wednesday May 18, 2016 @06:56PM (#11726686)
> accountable for what Oracle does with Java

Maybe my English is imprecise, but that's not what I tried to express. We may have to disagree that the OracleVsGoogle fallout is relevant in the hypothetical case of Axolotl IP, but as we're both not lawyers, it's moot to continue that debate.

> I don't think it's proper to suggest

It wouldn't cost Moxie anything to clear such concerns, even if it's just a handful of HN reader (including me), in light of this public event and would increase the positive profile of the protocol. You make it seem like by documenting that clearly Moxie would admit to doing something, but that's wrong and a curious way to look at things, especially as you're confident of there being no problem like that.

Re:Open Whisper Systems Partners with Google on End-To-end E... by lawnchair_larry on Thursday May 19, 2016 @12:37AM (#11727996)
Explanation for the wife beating comment: http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/212706/on-using-phra...