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Re:Software Licenses and Failed States by rmc on Wednesday May 18, 2016 @08:23AM (#11721374)
> The projects without license can in theory be considered open source (the source is published after all)

That is not what "Open Source" means.

> but legally, the copyright is still owned by the authors

In Open Source/Free Software, the copyright on the software is still owned by the original authors.

Re:Software Licenses and Failed States by ashitlerferad on Wednesday May 18, 2016 @09:11AM (#11721631)
> That is not what "Open Source" means.

"Open Source" means different things to different people and not everyone accepts the OSI definition, there are even people who are angry at ESR for grabbing the phrase for himself and making his definition the most popular one.

Re:Software Licenses and Failed States by jordigh on Wednesday May 18, 2016 @10:10AM (#11722040)
esr didn't coin the term, Christine Peterson did, and Tim O'Reilly funded the OSI compaign. Also, nobody used the term before OSI did, except with an unrelated meaning in the intelligence community.

http://jordi.inversethought.com/blog/5-things-we-have-forgot...

Re:Software Licenses and Failed States by davexunit on Wednesday May 18, 2016 @10:01AM (#11721973)
>"Open Source" means different things to different people

And those people are wrong. The OSI definition is the definition. Those that want it to mean something else are trying to fool people, which we call "open washing."

Re:Software Licenses and Failed States by rmc on Wednesday May 18, 2016 @11:35AM (#11722668)
Pedantically you're probably correct. However the OSI term is basically what people mean when they say "Open Source" now.

Much like many countries have a mile, if you started using Roman miles in England or the USA people would think you misleading

Re:Software Licenses and Failed States by calpaterson on Wednesday May 18, 2016 @08:41AM (#11721449)
Yeah, it seems like he doesn't understand the basics of the law in this area which makes the Somalia analogy pretty ignorant.

To expand on what you said: the term open source has a specific meaning and it doesn't mean "the source is available". From Wikipedia:

> "Open-source software (OSS) is computer software with its source code made available with a license in which the copyright holder provides the rights to study, change, and distribute the software to anyone and for any purpose."

Once upon a time most of the JDK had the source available - with all rights reserved. It was emphatically not OSS.

Re:Software Licenses and Failed States by mbreese on Wednesday May 18, 2016 @09:23AM (#11721709)
Even though that is the predominant interpretation of "open source" in the tech community, I think one could argue that the term "open source" has no legal meaning (outside of a license agreement, that is). So for the purposes of this argument (code w/o a license), the term is meaningless.