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Re:Yubico: Secure Hardware vs. Open Source by davideous on Monday May 16, 2016 @11:34PM (#11711213)
Yes, pritambaral described what I'm trying to point-out.

In think the "vs" in the title is saying this: they had to choose between open source (that is functional meaning you can really use the code and re-flash the device) and the secure hardware. It was a trade off of one "vs" the other, and this is their reasoning behind that trade-off.

Re:Yubico: Secure Hardware vs. Open Source by sigmar on Monday May 16, 2016 @11:52PM (#11711260)
Open source doesn't necessarily mean that you can put it on the device. I'm sure a lot of Yubico's critics would be happy with seeing the code even if it can't be flashed.
Re:Yubico: Secure Hardware vs. Open Source by davideous on Tuesday May 17, 2016 @12:10AM (#11711302)
Yes, it would technically meet the Open Source Initiative's definition (https://opensource.org/osd), but if there was no way to re-flash the device, no way to verify the binary on the device, or possibly even no way build a binary (which may require proprietary tools under NDA from the chip manufacturer) -- I think a lot of critics would still be critics, but I could be wrong.

If Yubico did this it would be very interesting to see the reaction.

Re:Yubico: Secure Hardware vs. Open Source by jevinskie on Tuesday May 17, 2016 @01:28AM (#11711508)
It would allow a third party to discover a vulnerability similar to the one in the Neo just by just reading the code.
Re:Yubico: Secure Hardware vs. Open Source by mavhc on Tuesday May 17, 2016 @01:49AM (#11711564)
The general issue is when all hardware has software in, in the end it has to be open source. Going even further: The distinction between hardware, firmware, and software is logically irrelevant in terms of trust.