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Re:Who Pays Writers? by Alex3917 on Friday May 13, 2016 @10:32AM (#11690620)
If there is research involved, each sentence or paragraph could easily take an entire day. E.g. a couple years ago I wrote a post about deaths caused by drug use/misuse, and just getting an idea of how many deaths are caused by smoking involved reading through several chapters of the Surgeon General's most-recent 800 page report. So I figure more like one post every 50 - 150 hours, for something 2,500 - 6,000 words in length.

That said, even a monthly salary of 100k+ per month isn't completely crazy given that there are magazines that cost 100k per year to subscribe to, with dozens or hundreds of corporate subscribers. That's obviously not the market that most tech companies are going after, but there is precedent there in general.

Re:Who Pays Writers? by logicallee on Friday May 13, 2016 @12:14PM (#11691229)
Nobody makes a salary of 100k per month. That is $1.2 million per year. The CEO of IBM, a company that had revenues of $80 billion in 2015, made salary of $1.6 million in 2015.[1] If you want to include stock or options or a revenue share or bonuses or whatever go ahead - but that's not salary and your figures are completely, utterly ridiculous.

>That said, even a monthly salary of 100k+ per month isn't completely crazy

yes it is.

[1] http://www.businessinsider.com/ibm-ceo-ginni-rometty-gets-a-...

Re:Who Pays Writers? by coldtea on Friday May 13, 2016 @01:46PM (#11691931)
>Nobody makes a salary of 100k per month. That is $1.2 million per year. The CEO of IBM, a company that had revenues of $80 billion in 2015, made salary of $1.6 million in 2015.

Actually lots of people do. In TV, for example, even for a small European countries, such as that I know of, you can make like $500K per year if you're one of the 20-30 "stars" of the various network channels (head presenter, show host etc).

In the US: "In the depths of the recession in 2009, there were still 236,883 individuals who earned more than $1,000,000 in the United States. We know from other research that, by rough estimates, 90 out of 100 men and women reaching this income level are self-made with little to no inheritance. Almost all have college degrees. Men dominate the field, and almost all own or started their own business or work as an executive for a large business".

I wouldn't call 230,000 people "nobody".

Re:Who Pays Writers? by rveeblefetzer on Saturday May 14, 2016 @02:27AM (#11694769)
In the US news business, $100k/month is strictly the domain of TV on-screen personality presenters; i.e., not the reporters, but network affiliate anchors who are referred to in-house as 'the talent'. Absurd sums of money when you look at the rest of the newsroom staff salaries, but this is all about ratings, sweeps and very local/regional popularity.
Re:Who Pays Writers? by Alex3917 on Friday May 13, 2016 @12:30PM (#11691341)
> Nobody makes a salary of 100k per month.

The founder of the last startup I worked at made 100k per month and wasn't even the CEO, and that was pre-product and pre-revenue. He just raised a bunch of money on a pitch deck.

I'm definitely not saying that's common, but it's not unheard of either. Inside Silicon Valley there's a tightly prescribed set of norms that tend to be followed, but outside of there money tends to change hands a lot more quickly and fluidly. That's the benefit of being in a place like NYC, because people tend to be motivated more by self-interest rather than by trying to look cool or fit in, so it's a lot easier to pitch folks on stuff if you find a novel but rational opportunity.

Re:Who Pays Writers? by logicallee on Friday May 13, 2016 @12:51PM (#11691489)
I find it very hard to believe that was a a base salary. (Of course, I could be wrong.)

Of course it's possible to make a lot more than that! Just not as a salary. It would be interesting to know the details of their package. Also, how come you happened to know?

Re:Who Pays Writers? by Alex3917 on Friday May 13, 2016 @01:14PM (#11691677)
I know because it was publicly traded. (They raised a bunch of money and then bought a shell company.)

That wasn't the exact base salary, but that was basically total compensation not including stock. (So including a few hundred thousand dollars per year in an expense account and an additional couple hundred thousand for serving on the board.)

Re:Who Pays Writers? by coldtea on Friday May 13, 2016 @01:47PM (#11691938)
Re:Who Pays Writers? by CrankyBear on Friday May 13, 2016 @02:09PM (#11692098)
"If there is research involved, each sentence or paragraph could easily take an entire day." That's not how writers or the publishing business works. Presuming you made real-world top dollar, $2.00 a word, your $12,000 dollar article would bring you $40 an hour. Odds are you'll actually make a buck a word, so you're already down to $20 an hour. You can dream of a world where writers make 100K a month from projects like this, but with 30 years in the business I don't know anyone even close to that.
Re:Who Pays Writers? by Alex3917 on Friday May 13, 2016 @03:56PM (#11692827)
> You can dream of a world where writers make 100K a month from projects like this, but with 30 years in the business I don't know anyone even close to that.

I've never been, but if you go to some of the big leadgen conferences then I suspect that you'd meet or at least hear about a lot of folks like this.

Re:Who Pays Writers? by coldtea on Friday May 13, 2016 @01:41PM (#11691887)
>If there is research involved, each sentence or paragraph could easily take an entire day. E.g. a couple years ago I wrote a post about deaths caused by drug use/misuse, and just getting an idea of how many deaths are caused by smoking involved reading through several chapters of the Surgeon General's most-recent 800 page report.

Journalists for established media do all that (and more) as part of getting the facts for their articles, and still take in something like $2-$3 per month or less.

Re:Who Pays Writers? by greedo on Friday May 13, 2016 @11:17AM (#11690858)
At my peak as a free lance tech writer for various computer magazines, I was making .40/word. That was pretty high on the scale for freelancers. And since then the bottom has dropped out of the market since print articles are largely dead.
Re:Who Pays Writers? by ohjeez on Friday May 13, 2016 @01:43PM (#11691901)
Well, no, that is _not_ high on the scale for freelancers. Far from it.
Re:Who Pays Writers? by greedo on Friday May 13, 2016 @09:47PM (#11694229)
Compared to many of the writers for the stable of publications I wrote for, it was at the higher end. Perhaps a named writer could pull more in at a better publication, but this was a very frugal and profitable (for awhile at least) group of magazines.