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Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conserva... by lazzlazzlazz on Monday May 09, 2016 @12:04PM (#11660845)
> “It was absolutely bias. We were doing it subjectively. It just depends on who the curator is and what time of day it is,” said the former curator.

> Other former curators interviewed by Gizmodo denied consciously suppressing conservative news, and we were unable to determine if left-wing news topics or sources were similarly suppressed. The conservative curator described the omissions as a function of his colleagues’ judgements; there is no evidence that Facebook management mandated or was even aware of any political bias at work.

It sounds like any issues were from curators who weren't being adequately supervised, instead of top-down orders from executives at Facebook.

This is different than what the current Hacker News headline suggests. Can we all collectively read the article and understand that the issue is different than our preconceptions lead us to believe?

Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conserva... by gunshigh on Monday May 09, 2016 @12:07PM (#11660863)
Or Facebook has learned the art of Plausible Deniability.

If the bias happens during hiring (by preferring candidates who naturally lean left), then Facebook merely needs to give them curation power without giving explicit instructions.

Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conserva... by lazzlazzlazz on Monday May 09, 2016 @12:54PM (#11661256)
This sounds too much like a conspiracy theory to take very seriously. Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to incompetence.
Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conserva... by gunshigh on Monday May 09, 2016 @01:11PM (#11661383)
> The Facebook CEO was overheard responding that "we need to do some work" on curtailing anti-immigrant posts about the refugee crisis. "Are you working on this?" Merkel asked in English, to which Zuckerberg replied in the affirmative before the transmission was disrupted.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/27/angela-merkel-caught-on-hot-m...

Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conserva... by gaius on Monday May 09, 2016 @04:17PM (#11662786)
Such as the BBC only advertising jobs in the Graun, and wondering why people accuse it of bias.
Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conserva... by DanBC on Monday May 09, 2016 @04:22PM (#11662829)
To be fair, the Sun also do most of their recruitment advertising the in grauniad. The Guardian is the only daily paper with a media recruitment section. It's not surprising that media outlets advertise media jobs in a media recruitment section.
Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conserva... by duaneb on Monday May 09, 2016 @12:14PM (#11660910)
Just because the evidence isn't there doesn't mean there wasn't downward pressure from management. Look at the art of dodging blame as practiced by VW.
Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conserva... by shepardrtc on Monday May 09, 2016 @12:34PM (#11661088)
There wasn't any evidence and there wasn't any implication from the article. It's very different from the VW scandal.
Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conserva... by duaneb on Monday May 09, 2016 @03:09PM (#11662289)
This does not imply a lack of evidence, though. The appropriate response would be to ask for a deeper inquiry. Otherwise you're just enabling scapegoating if you accept the first view without any question.
Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conserva... by shepardrtc on Monday May 09, 2016 @05:03PM (#11663187)
> The conservative curator described the omissions as a function of his colleagues’ judgements; there is no evidence that Facebook management mandated or was even aware of any political bias at work.

The person who brought this to light - the one who not only experienced it themselves but also had the most complain about - says that it wasn't anything pushed down by management.

Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conserva... by duaneb on Monday May 09, 2016 @11:09PM (#11664918)
I'm sure his paycheck is entirely unrelated to what he says to the press.
Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conserva... by basch on Monday May 09, 2016 @03:36PM (#11662504)
isnt the point of hiring a "curator" to have people select and omit stories based on newsworthiness vs being nonstories?
Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conserva... by lazzlazzlazz on Monday May 09, 2016 @03:44PM (#11662552)
I would assume this is why they hired people with journalistic backgrounds, but it looks like they should have had some more sophisticated consensus-seeking and quality control mechanisms in place.
Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conserva... by basch on Monday May 09, 2016 @03:49PM (#11662585)
i still dont see any report of an actual story being suppressed.

hiding Romney ate honey nut cheerios is very different from hiding Romney donates his breakfast to starving children. The former isnt news, the latter type of suppression would be to purposely create a void of positive Romney stories.

that said, facebook's trending stories are a pile of nonnewsshit anyway, most of them should never be brought to peoples attention by choice.

Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conserva... by FBGoAway on Monday May 09, 2016 @12:33PM (#11661082)
Irrelevant.

FB is a nuclear weapon. Chain reactions that start there can take out society in a blink. That has to be understood and digested by society. Doesn't matter what the actual story of the day getting filtered is.

Trump has subverted the republican party in 8 months. 8 years ago a community organizer subverted the dems in 2 years. Look at Corbyn, Modi, Kejriwal, Joko etc etc Its thanks to social media and the like pressing herd of programmed robots that populate it.

Who knows how fast a Trump 2.0, 3.0 and then a 4.0 will take to rise. Its just going to get more and more efficient. The people who see this play out real time everyday, whether its Trump, ISIS or Star Wars marketing are those curators on the front lines. They fully understand how fast the process can work.

They are totally unprepared and untrained on what to do if things are unravelling. Its not surprising at all that some take it upon themselves to act like control rods.

Time to take a serious look at...China...yes China. Cause control rods are necessary.

Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conserva... by Grishnakh on Monday May 09, 2016 @01:41PM (#11661627)
So basically you oppose democracy?
Re:Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conserva... by rdancer on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @01:08AM (#11665256)
You don't? The Founders did, vehemently[0].

[0] http://www.theunion.com/opinion/7699648-113/democracy-majori...