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Re:We discovered our parents were Russian spies by cperciva on Sunday May 08, 2016 @04:17AM (#11653180)
There are seven billion people in the world who are victims of not being born Canadian citizens. The distinguishing fact of these two is that their parents pretended to be Canadian; but while I have sympathy for the kids, it seems that it would be a bit perverse to say that if parents lie to their kids for long enough then we have a duty to make those lies come true.
Re:We discovered our parents were Russian spies by hartpuff on Sunday May 08, 2016 @04:34AM (#11653223)
Who is saying anything remotely like "if parents lie to their kids for long enough then we have a duty to make those lies come true"?

Unless you're claiming 7 billion people in the world were born in Canada, the most distinguishing fact about these two is obviously not that their parents pretended to be Canadian.

Re:We discovered our parents were Russian spies by cperciva on Sunday May 08, 2016 @04:18PM (#11655561)
Unless you're claiming 7 billion people in the world were born in Canada

Not at all. I'm claiming that 7 billion people are not Canadian citizens due to the circumstances of their birth.

Re:We discovered our parents were Russian spies by hartpuff on Monday May 09, 2016 @04:01AM (#11658217)
> Not at all.

Then, as I said, the most distinguishing fact about these two is obviously not that their parents pretended to be Canadian.

There really is no point in arguing this since you believe the circumstances of someone born in Canada, raised to some extent in Canada, and having an affinity with Canada are analogous to someone who doesn't even know Canada exists, like a large proportion of that 7 billion you talk about.

BTW, did you edit your other post? Not that it changes anything, but I don't remember it saying "victims of not being born Canadian citizens" when I replied.

Re:We discovered our parents were Russian spies by hartpuff on Monday May 09, 2016 @03:51AM (#11658196)
Interesting that I've suddenly, just now, received no less than two downvotes on the above (otherwise popular) post and my post above it (4 simultaneous downvotes on just two posts), despite this currently sliding down Page 5 of HN.

To be legit, that's at least two separate people coincidentally downvoting the same day old posts at the same time, on a Page 5 submission.

Re:We discovered our parents were Russian spies by ScottBurson on Sunday May 08, 2016 @03:04PM (#11655266)
Not a duty. But I still think it would be the humane thing to do.
Re:We discovered our parents were Russian spies by tmptmp on Sunday May 08, 2016 @07:58AM (#11653654)
Very well said. Indeed, I could not have put it so better.