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Re:The Tyranny of Structurelessness (1972) by erikb on Sunday May 08, 2016 @03:23AM (#11653051)
So the difference between our opinions is basically that you think formal power is most important and informal power only a nuance to that, and I think informal power is most important and formal power only a nuance to that.

For me it's good to know that people still exist who can believe in the first. I also started out like that but the little experience I could gather from this world taught me otherwise.

Re:The Tyranny of Structurelessness (1972) by TeMPOraL on Sunday May 08, 2016 @06:47AM (#11653503)
I think what the GP is saying is that navigating through the office politics is like crossing a minefield; formal structure at least shows you where most of the mines are located; holocracy means you have no clue, no map.
Re:The Tyranny of Structurelessness (1972) by erikb on Sunday May 08, 2016 @06:48PM (#11656367)
Yes and I think the map is too old and outdated and lacks detail.
Re:The Tyranny of Structurelessness (1972) by eru on Sunday May 08, 2016 @07:24PM (#11656520)
At least the map gives you excuses---ie harder to get fired for doing what your boss tells you. Your detractors will have to make up another charge.
Re:The Tyranny of Structurelessness (1972) by erikb on Monday May 09, 2016 @09:02AM (#11659470)
That's true. It's harder to get fired following the map. Haven't thought about that, since it's not my preference. Thanks for the reminder. Now it makes sense to think that way.