Re:Understanding the bin, sbin, usr/bin , usr/sbin split (2010)
by Jasper_ on Saturday May 07, 2016 @03:18AM
(#11648721)
Uh, I don't see how this is related to UsrMerge? You can still have separate /usr/bin and /bin directories, you just need to make sure /usr is mounted and accessible during boot. Requiring /usr be available during boot has long been the case for Linux, even before systemd came along.
Re:Understanding the bin, sbin, usr/bin , usr/sbin split (2010)
by spc476 on Saturday May 07, 2016 @03:21AM
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So, as Linus controls the kernel, Lennart wants to control userspace?
Re:Understanding the bin, sbin, usr/bin , usr/sbin split (2010)
by digi_owl on Saturday May 07, 2016 @03:38AM
(#11648751)
I'm not sure Torvalds care about control either way, he just wants to build a kernel to be proud off.
Re:Understanding the bin, sbin, usr/bin , usr/sbin split (2010)
by arca_vorago on Saturday May 07, 2016 @09:11AM
(#11649448)
I have a sneaking suspicion one day systemd is going to try to replace the gnu in gnu/linux.
Re:Understanding the bin, sbin, usr/bin , usr/sbin split (2010)
by digi_owl on Sunday May 08, 2016 @04:56AM
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Why, when they can grab the reins?
Iirc, glibc used to be maintained by a RH guy until he got on so many people's wrong side there was fork made that ran for a number of years until the original was merged into it and the fork renamed.
As of 2016, the position is that whilst there is still code in some of the program to handle a split /usr, a significant part of the system (in particular Plug and Play device management) now references /usr and depends from it, to the extent that it is already a requirement that /usr be always present: i.e. that it either be on the root volume or be mounted by /init (on the initramfs) before it invokes systemd.
* https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2016-Fe...
Lennart Poettering is indeed now pushing for systemd to impose a similar requirement for /var .
* https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2016-Fe...
* https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2016-Fe...