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Re:Agile Is Dead, Long Live Continuous Delivery by p4wnc6 on Thursday May 05, 2016 @09:08PM (#11640978)
When everyone misuses a tool, it's the tool's fault. And everybody misuses Agile.
Re:Agile Is Dead, Long Live Continuous Delivery by jheriko on Thursday May 05, 2016 @09:50PM (#11641146)
some over quoted thing about bad workmen comes to mind...

i prefer to think that a master craftsman is one who can take any tools and materials and use them to produce good work... if not exceptional.

Re:Agile Is Dead, Long Live Continuous Delivery by hinkley on Friday May 06, 2016 @01:33AM (#11641914)
That is not what "a poor craftsman" means.

Doing awesome things with primitive tools is a parlor trick. Grandstanding.

The craftsman blames themself for using the wrong tool for the job, not the tool.

Re:Agile Is Dead, Long Live Continuous Delivery by tonyarkles on Friday May 06, 2016 @01:16AM (#11641863)
Sure, and I agree to a large extent, but if I'm doing woodworking and my blades are so fragile that they snap with the tiniest amount of friction, I'm probably not going to be very happy working like that for very long.
Re:Agile Is Dead, Long Live Continuous Delivery by p4wnc6 on Friday May 06, 2016 @12:55AM (#11641769)
But why would you ever intentionally use (or vigorously defend) demonstrably bad tools? Just because you could do well with a bad tool doesn't mean you should or that you couldn't do better with easy-to-get other, better tools.

If you are forced to use an inferior tool like Agile, then sure, you want to make the best of it and be a craftsman who can still succeed.

That is an endorsement of being adaptable and self-reliant as an engineer, not an endorsement of Agile.

And if a tool is bad like Agile, it's useful to point it out and slowly steer the bureaucracy that feeds it into bastardizing whatever the next tool is, but hopefully inching forward to a better global state as well.