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Re:Elsevier Complaint Shuts Down Sci-Hub Domain Name by agumonkey on Thursday May 05, 2016 @07:36PM (#11640531)
I'm fascinated by this. Because we all feel the same, but no efficient solution emerges from this tensions. Or only rarely. We should study this and learn how to make catalysts to trigger change.
Re:Elsevier Complaint Shuts Down Sci-Hub Domain Name by zerotimer on Thursday May 05, 2016 @08:44PM (#11640868)
Are you refering to things like change.org? I am not sure what's the success rate of those models but on the surface they seem quite ineffective to bring any substantial change.
Re:Elsevier Complaint Shuts Down Sci-Hub Domain Name by agumonkey on Thursday May 05, 2016 @08:50PM (#11640895)
change.org is just petitions right ?

I meant something more tangible. A way to assess issues, classify, organize, root them in the economical context and try to find a better organization to resolve tensions.

Re:Elsevier Complaint Shuts Down Sci-Hub Domain Name by zerotimer on Thursday May 05, 2016 @08:54PM (#11640912)
The problem is that for any such systems to operate, you need experts. If you democratize too much, you end up risking with ignorant and inefficient long term solutions (like Trump). And with experts, there will always be some scope of corruption. Unless we are talking AI experts that are similar to IBM's Watson.
Re:Elsevier Complaint Shuts Down Sci-Hub Domain Name by agumonkey on Thursday May 05, 2016 @09:09PM (#11640983)
Very good point. I was hoping for a middle ground where people would reach a better understanding and solve their issues by communicating. But maybe that's unnatural and just a pipe dream.