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Re:Japan Now Has More Electric Car Charging Spots Than Gas S... by ghaff on Thursday May 05, 2016 @12:12PM (#11637345)
4-5 hours is probably just about the upper limit for viable high traffic passenger rail. Even on the Northeast Corridor (where Amtrak makes the money that the rest of their route system loses), NY to the north and NY to the south are popular. Boston all the way to DC much less so.

For better or worse, there just isn't a lot of appetite in the US for creating new rail lines that would be money losers.

>We refer to the founders of the American Rail system as Robber Barons for many reasons, but they certainly did a good job of robbing from the system's own future as well.

Not sure what you mean by that. They built much of the rail network. It declined after WWII (i.e. long after the so-called "robber barons") because the interstates and flying took away much of the passenger traffic and made it unprofitable.

Re:Japan Now Has More Electric Car Charging Spots Than Gas S... by WorldMaker on Thursday May 05, 2016 @01:16PM (#11637976)
My original point remains there are a lot of routes I'm jealous of that used to have less than or equal to 4-5 hour travel that were shut down and can't even be done at those speeds today. I'm not talking about new rail lines, I'm talking about all the existing rail lines that are underutilized by the existing cargo-focused train companies today because they aren't profitable for cargo, but could be useful for passenger travel given the old/original speeds, which we can't get today given the catch-22 of there is no demand there because the speeds aren't there and the speeds aren't there because the demand isn't there at the current speeds.

«It declined after WWII (i.e. long after the so-called "robber barons") because the interstates and flying took away much of the passenger traffic and made it unprofitable.»

I'm trying to point out it also declined because the inheritors of Robber Barons focused on the comfortable and easy profits of coast-to-coast cargo over long term investments in infrastructure. Yes, interstates and advances in flight did their part to minimize the public interest in passenger traffic, but so too did giving priority of all lines to cargo and avoiding long term capital maintenance and improvements. The railroad industry has a lot of "tech debt" that they've passed on from generation to generation and it's past time someone went in and refactored that debt. Yes, some of that tech debt is the fault of the Robber Barons themselves in that the majority of what they built (using public right of ways and public eminent domain to help construct it in a very strong example of America mistaking public infrastructure as private corporate profit centers) was never built with long term maintenance and sustainability in mind.