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Re:It's Charisma, Stupid (2004) by mistermann on Thursday May 05, 2016 @01:20AM (#11634154)
> “If Hillary Clinton were a man, I don’t think she would get 5 percent of the vote,” Mr. Trump said.

Interesting that you think that is sexist, as to me it seems like he is describing a sexist scenario, and I happen to agree with that interpretation.

I think you're pretty on point with Adams though.

Re:It's Charisma, Stupid (2004) by jimbokun on Thursday May 05, 2016 @01:16PM (#11637978)
"I happen to agree with that interpretation."

I think it will take some doing to defend your interpretation.

You are basically claiming men are massively discriminated against in politics, such that just for being a woman, Hillary's support goes from 5% of the vote to 40-something-percent (depending on how you interpret current polls).

Frankly, almost anyone at the top of the Democratic ticket would get much, much more than 5% of the vote due to the qualification of "not being Donald Trump", who is only the least favorable presidential candidate on record.

So it is a self-obviously stupid statement, as with pretty much everything else the Donald says, and I have no idea how you might defend it.

Frankly, I don't think its a statement meant to be defended at all, just a signal to misogynists that Donald wants their votes, but that's just my interpretation.

Re:It's Charisma, Stupid (2004) by kelukelugames on Thursday May 05, 2016 @01:34AM (#11634189)
"The only thing she's got is the woman's card" is not sexist. Stay classy Hacker News!

I had a haunch when I replied to your first comment. Shame on me for responding.

Re:It's Charisma, Stupid (2004) by coldtea on Thursday May 05, 2016 @08:14AM (#11635370)
In what way is that sexist?

Sexist would be to say that she's a bad candidate BECAUSE she's a woman. What he said is that she's using being a woman to win over votes while not having much else to offer, policy wise -- which he could legitimately believe.

FWIW, I believe that the woman card is indeed something Clinton played. Not the first to use such tactics either: Obama played the race card. And I'm not saying these things as in any way republican. I'm a foreigner, and for me even Sanders or Kucinich look right wingers. Clinton (Bill) played the "40-something youthful" card, Bush played the "more patriotic but still plain folk like ya all" card, etc. And Trump has his own "mad-dog patriot tells them like they is" card.

>I had a haunch when I replied to your first comment. Shame on me for responding.

Shame indeed, but not for responding to the parent, but for belittling them and going for a personal attack.

Re:It's Charisma, Stupid (2004) by kelukelugames on Thursday May 05, 2016 @09:48AM (#11636017)
You are foreigner? That explains your lack of knowledge. "Woman card" and "race card" are loaded terms in the US. They are used to dismiss grievances due to discrimination and to belittle the achievements of non white males.
Re:It's Charisma, Stupid (2004) by coldtea on Thursday May 05, 2016 @02:36PM (#11638660)
>You are foreigner? That explains your lack of knowledge.

That probably explains my impartiality. I'm more in tune with American culture (everyday and historical) than probably 90% of the local population. Heck, I've even been to most states than most (well, all of the continental ones). But I don't ascribe to ideological biases of either side.

>"Woman card" and "race card" are loaded terms in the US. They are used to dismiss grievances due to discrimination and to belittle the achievements of non white males.

That's a loaded way to put it itself.

Yes, "woman card" and "race card" can be used to "dismiss grievances" by white males, but can also be used to claim bogus benefits by the respective card holders.

Whether white or black, man or woman, there IS such a thing as an abuse of your race/gender to gain sympathy.

And blanket statements about this are one-sided -- whether "woman card" or "race card" is a valid or bigoted use have to be examined on a case by case basis.

Re:It's Charisma, Stupid (2004) by kelukelugames on Friday May 06, 2016 @12:00PM (#11644824)
People have this victim complex where they think minorities and women are playing their cards to oppress white men. Fantasizing about imaginary abuse must be fun.
Re:It's Charisma, Stupid (2004) by mistermann on Thursday May 05, 2016 @01:43AM (#11634211)
Is whether or not the statement is true of interest to you?

edit: Or in other words, do you think there is actually such a thing as a woman card (race card, victim card, etc), or are these a completely manufactured ideas with no basis in reality?