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Re:Tell HN: Winners of Apply HN for YC Fellowship 3 by willu on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @10:09PM (#11633479)
Right about what exactly? The deal was not "we'll give $20k to whoever gets the most upvotes." It was about participating in a YC program, which this person doesn't seem to have any interest in, or at least wants to feign complete disinterest. I'm glad a spot was not wasted on him based on his attitude alone.
Re:Tell HN: Winners of Apply HN for YC Fellowship 3 by tptacek on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @10:16PM (#11633508)
Could you be a little bit more careful in minting new truths about people's psychology, especially if you don't know those people, to score points in Internet arguments? The Maciej I know was definitely not disinterested in winning that YCF spot.
Re:Tell HN: Winners of Apply HN for YC Fellowship 3 by cperciva on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @10:37PM (#11633618)
The Maciej I know was definitely not disinterested in winning that YCF spot.

Did he want the YCF spot, or the $20k? I don't know him, but the fact that his immediate response was "I want my twenty grand" reinforces my belief that Kevin made the right decision here.

Re:Tell HN: Winners of Apply HN for YC Fellowship 3 by wfn on Thursday May 05, 2016 @03:09PM (#11638897)
Let me save you the time and (having watched and read quite a bit of Maciej's stuff, internalizing his reasoning about many things in our culture) tell you that he was being deliberately facetious here. (Maybe "facetious" is too strong a word: he was merely speaking in jest, "calling YCF out", perhaps being a bit too flippant due to his (justified) frustration, if any). I'm replying to your comment because I see you reproducing your above point all over the place, and it's sad you think that way about this.

(That being said, for someone not familiar with Maciej's approach to things, I can perhaps understand why you'd think that way.)

Re:Tell HN: Winners of Apply HN for YC Fellowship 3 by kenko on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @11:35PM (#11633867)
God forbid that someone so known for his sobriety in all things should on this one occasion have a jokey response.
Re:Tell HN: Winners of Apply HN for YC Fellowship 3 by YuriNiyazov on Thursday May 05, 2016 @12:47AM (#11634058)
If he reiterated that jokey response in his "good-faith conversation" with kevin, then kevin made the right call. I'll agree with tptacek though that they should've just said that, instead of talking about voting rings.
Re:Tell HN: Winners of Apply HN for YC Fellowship 3 by cperciva on Thursday May 05, 2016 @12:52AM (#11634072)
Different people. Dan runs HN, and I'm sure he thinks about voting rings all day long. Kevin is from YC, and thinks about founders and fitting into the YC community. I think it's safe to say that they both had very good, but entirely independent, reasons for not wanting to fund pinboard.
Re:Tell HN: Winners of Apply HN for YC Fellowship 3 by willu on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @10:27PM (#11633576)
There are probably ways he could have conveyed that better. Judging by the outcome, smarter people than me came to that same conclusion.
Re:Tell HN: Winners of Apply HN for YC Fellowship 3 by tptacek on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @10:36PM (#11633610)
Now do you see the problem with how YC chose to explain Pinboard's exclusion?
Re:Tell HN: Winners of Apply HN for YC Fellowship 3 by license2e on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @11:01PM (#11633729)
No, it's pretty clear

> Did he want the YCF spot, or the $20k? I don't know him, but the fact that his immediate response was "I want my twenty grand" reinforces my belief that Kevin made the right decision here.

I agree, Kevin made the right decision as well.

Re:Tell HN: Winners of Apply HN for YC Fellowship 3 by tptacek on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @11:08PM (#11633768)
I don't care about the decision. I care about how it was communicated.
Re:Tell HN: Winners of Apply HN for YC Fellowship 3 by YuriNiyazov on Thursday May 05, 2016 @02:58AM (#11634445)
The "Kevin talked to Maciej and it didn't seem like it would work out" part seems pretty straightforward. The voting brigade thing seems dumb, but Kevin was pretty explicit that part wouldn't have mattered.
Re:Tell HN: Winners of Apply HN for YC Fellowship 3 by owpiejkbn on Thursday May 05, 2016 @03:34AM (#11634531)
Of course he was interested, trolls are always interested in getting a response.