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Re:Google: End of the Online Advertising Bubble by novaleaf on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @12:29PM (#11629486)
This article may be hype, but the Google Adwords monopoly is very real and I wish it died.

I run a SaaS startup (PhantomJsCloud) and tried adwords. No advertising competition, and targeted very specific actionable search queries. Google charges upward of $5.00/click. I can understand they want to cut spammers saturating every random search query, but how am I going to get a positive RoI on that kind of cost?

Re:Google: End of the Online Advertising Bubble by sixtypoundhound on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @02:59PM (#11630761)
Honestly, if the competition for those keywords is that weak, I'd go for an SEO blitz. I pulled a SEMRUSH profile on your site (other tools exist, I just like that one)

https://www.semrush.com/info/phantomjscloud.com

- Identify keywords you want to target, with decent search volume and not too many strong competitors. Use those words in your headlines and article text - Start a blog and bulk up your articles; knock out 4 - 5 1500+ word articles on the problems you are solving and which audiences would benefit from them - Share those articles on social media - Your site could benefit from additional back-links (you've only got 14); look at your major competitors and see if they are getting links from highly reputable sources. Reach out to those sources and offer them a reason to link to you. Avoid links from spammy sites and low-end blogs (do NOT do the $5 link building package on elance or wherever)...

[There's a ton more, but that will give you a running start on respectable SEO]

Re:Google: End of the Online Advertising Bubble by fireworks10 on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @12:36PM (#11629540)
AdWords determines your ad's AdRank by its Quality Score (expected clickthrough rate, ad relevance, and landing page experience) in addition to your cpc bid.

Perhaps you had a low quality score (below 8), so Google requested a higher CPC to compensate?

Re:Google: End of the Online Advertising Bubble by novaleaf on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @07:08PM (#11632706)
thanks for the input, yeah I think I need to do more "inbound marketing" before attempting adwords (display). I have a 4 to 6 quality score, and nothing is displayed unless the CPC is astronomical.
Re:Google: End of the Online Advertising Bubble by calbear81 on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @04:19PM (#11631419)
Have you done the calculation on conversion rate you would need at your current SAAS subscription cost to find out how much you could afford to pay per click?
Re:Google: End of the Online Advertising Bubble by novaleaf on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @07:10PM (#11632722)
yeah, and it's a lot less than $5! basically I had to stop adwords display ads. It doesn't seem to be usable by startups with non-traditional keywords, at least until I SEO the site more (then will try again)