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Re:IBM Wants Everyone to Try a Quantum Computer by tamana on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @11:52AM (#11629197)
You are getting downvoted, but no less than Sir Roger Penrose had the same idea for the origin of human intelligence.
Re:IBM Wants Everyone to Try a Quantum Computer by spacehome on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @12:57PM (#11629692)
And it was a bad idea when he said it, too.
Re:IBM Wants Everyone to Try a Quantum Computer by yarou on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @01:16PM (#11629853)
Eh, the jury's still out.

I sort of agree with Scott Aaronson on why he thinks consciousness is finite[0].

The problem, IMO, that Penrose has is that his theories border closely on mysticism - there's some quantum "magical" process whereby consciousness arises. Both pictures are incomplete, but Aaronson's is the most plausible.

[0]http://www.scottaaronson.com/writings/finite.html

Re:IBM Wants Everyone to Try a Quantum Computer by j1vms on Thursday May 05, 2016 @12:18AM (#11633984)
"This rule implies that 2, 17, and the number of possible human life experiences are all equally distant from infinity." [0]

Thanks for the link. I do have trouble with the above statement, and what follows it, as I would think that the number of states of the human body (or even just the brain & nervous system) would be infinite (that is, in the sense of the infinite cardinality of real numbers) and not countably infinite (as in the set of whole numbers). This would follow from the entire system operating as a biochemical process, and neuronal stimulus being an analog signal between a finite number of neuron cells. Thoughts?

[0] http://www.scottaaronson.com/writings/finite.html

Re:IBM Wants Everyone to Try a Quantum Computer by yarou on Friday May 06, 2016 @07:28PM (#11647466)
Just so I understand you correctly, you're saying that the cardinality of the set of all possible states of neurons in one's brain is aleph-null?
Re:IBM Wants Everyone to Try a Quantum Computer by j1vms on Friday May 06, 2016 @11:26PM (#11648255)
Had to look that up again to be sure - no, instead what I'm suggesting is the number of possible states of neurons is infinite, and not countably infinite (implied by a cardinality of aleph-null).

I suggest the number of possible states is infinite since the signals between neurons are analog (though I acknowledge this one-word categorization is a major simplification of the actual process of neuronal stimulation).

Re:IBM Wants Everyone to Try a Quantum Computer by tamana on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @04:39PM (#11631559)
Does finite imply non-quantum?
Re:IBM Wants Everyone to Try a Quantum Computer by yarou on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @09:45PM (#11633391)
No, but there is no evidence that biological neural networks exhibit quantum effects.

Classical (Newtonian) mechanics seem sufficient enough to explain how neurons work.

Re:IBM Wants Everyone to Try a Quantum Computer by spacehome on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @09:44PM (#11633381)
No, of course not.