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Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by antisthenes on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @07:16PM (#11624988)
Out of curiosity, what did Brazil use before WhatsApp existed?

It seems strange to me that 1 app can capture such an overwhelming majority, because it's just a client, of which there have always been dozens if not hundreds.

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by ricpass on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @11:28PM (#11625960)
SMS was expensive in Brazil before Whatsapp. Furthermore, it took more than half an hour to a SMS arrive in most of the time, sometime more than a day. A lot of people don't pay cellular data plan and use whatsapp on wifi.

Whatsapp arrived as a free service on android. The app was really fast even in slow smartphone. And uses your cellphone number as id, so it was really easy to know whom was using. I made a lot of people to use whatapp, because it show if you had send the message and if the other person has read. A problem I had with SMS.

And others messengers? (IMHO) * iMessage is restrict on iPhone and Android dominate market share in Brazil. * Facebook Message was only put in a different app latter in the game. And Facebook App is a bloatware, so it is practically unused on slow smartphones. * Skype app was slow and it didn't use your cellphone number, so I had to ask personally. * Gtalk didn't synchronized messages correctly and I never saw someone outside tech people using it. (Hangout fix the first problem).

A few others tried: Kik, WeChat, zapzap (Brazilian messenger). But none has the mass use. Now days, even my gramma is using Whatapp, so it will be difficult to change.

Telegram is increasing the number of people. I had a lot of friends sign up during this blockage.

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by neves on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @11:57PM (#11626064)
WhatsApp (or ZapZap as it is informally called here) used to work even in old Nokia phones (non android).

The Telcos cartel created a lot of "innovations" in Brazil. It is so expensive to call between different telcos, that people have multiple phones with multiple chips each.

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by ma2rten on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @07:57PM (#11625196)
It's not surprising to me that there is only one app used by the majority of people. That is called the network effect.

But why is it WhatsApp? It's very frictionless. WhatsApp is a drop-in replacement for SMS. You don't make an account. You just download the app, import your phonebook and start messaging people who are also on WhatsApp. It's SMS except it's free, not more not less. My parents (not from Brazil) are on WhatsApp. They don't use any other social network or messaging app (except Skype).

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by thirdsun on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @01:55AM (#11626511)
Similar situation here in Germany. Everyone and their mother uses Whatsapp. Most tech people underestimate the importance of not having to create an account or manage friends/contacts. Your phone number and your existing contacts is all it takes to set you up on Whatsapp, which is a low enough barrier to welcome users that usually avoid scary things like creating an account.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by danieldk on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @04:26AM (#11626982)
And they had extremely wide platform support in times when not everyone had a smartphone. So, like SMS and in contrast to many other apps you were not confined to just Blackberry, iOS, xor Android.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by br_smartass on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @10:28PM (#11625737)
Brasilians are social-network junkies... Whatsapp was 'the messaging app' around the time where just about everybody got a smartphone so it just caught on, and there are groups for everything(and there's a lot of porn) and a lot of stuff goes viral through it(I've received Lula's lawyer wiretapped call through groups, for example) and then businesses started using it too, putting their "zaps" on billboards and etc. Before Whatsapp it was Facebook, Orkut, MSN..
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by bikamonki on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @11:02PM (#11625859)
How do businesses manage to communicate with clients through their zaps when there isn't an official API nor a CRM oriented Whatsapp client. Also, aren't they breaking the SLA? Just curious...
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by br_smartass on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @11:18PM (#11625906)
Well, it would be simple/small businessess mostly, and mostly taking the place of phone calling, for example asking for information, ordering something, "signing up" to receive offers/the daily menu... And that would be just a guy with a list and a phone forwarding and repplying messages and etc. Radio shows also use it to communicate with listeners(although it's kinda ridiculous that then they have to warn all the time not to text while driving)... So.. Yeah, mostly about communication, not about process.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by aylons on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @11:19PM (#11625915)
Mostly small business literally typing on their phones. Really bizarre.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by EuAndreh on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @02:03AM (#11626529)
It's funny to watch it, actually.

A company gives you their card information and there are a few things on it: the website URL, maybe an email, the address and a phone number, with the WhatsApp icon on the side!

When there are two numbers, they put the WhatsApp icon in one of them. They literally put another company's logo in their own contact info, because of how WhatsApp is so widespread!

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by techload on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @12:11AM (#11626124)
There is something called web.whatsapp.com, if you don't know. Also, there are custom programs that will automatically answer whatsapp messages, like dealing with pizza orders, for instance, without any human intervention.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by aylons on Thursday May 05, 2016 @10:22AM (#11636321)
Yes, I know, use it everyday. Most small business in Brazil don't. And definitively no automated software. Also, all automated software for WhatsApp must rely on terrible hacks on the interface, as there's no supported API and WA is really aggressive against third-party clients.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by bikamonki on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @11:31PM (#11625979)
I guess if this happens on a market where Whatsapp serves 10% of its entire user base, FB sees an opportunity to make back the billions it paid for it by offering a paid API to businesses.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by EuAndreh on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @07:44PM (#11625128)
IMHO, the biggest selling point of WhatsApp for brazilians is that it works as offline as it is possible. All received data is stored locally.

Even if you're offline and send a message, it stores it locally and send it when connection becomes available.

Since the majority of WhatsApp users in Brazil have access only to low quality internet connection, this becomes a major issue.

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by mirimir on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @08:58PM (#11625442)
So it's not at all about privacy?

That's interesting. But it makes sense, I suppose.

It's just the vocal minority that push privacy in WhatsApp. But it is good to see Facebook supporting private communication. Apple and Facebook, who would have thought?

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by danieldk on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @04:29AM (#11626991)
In the case of Apple it's much more obvious, when most of your revenue comes from hardware (and now also 'services') you don't have to mine your user's data for ads.

WhatsApp introducing Signal-based end-to-end encryption after it was acquired by Facebook was definitely surprising. I guess they can always switch to on-device profile creation :p. I trusted Whatsapp as a separate entity (low costs, yearly fee). Facebook, not so much.

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by techload on Wednesday May 04, 2016 @12:13AM (#11626138)
"Since the majority of WhatsApp users in Brazil have access only to low quality internet connection"... Not unlike the shitty situation in the US.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by neves on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @11:59PM (#11626074)
And free messages and phone calls. Here one dollar would give you less than 10 SMS messages.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by gtirloni on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @07:19PM (#11625001)
SMS. It was a big focus for a lot of telcos until recently.

WhatsApp usage seem to have gone hand in hand with increased availability of smartphones (Android, mostly).

I don't remember any other mobile messaging app that had widespread usage before that.

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by astronautjones on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @11:57PM (#11626063)
exactly. remember, the US was not the reason FB shelled out to buy 'em
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by speeder on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @08:45PM (#11625394)
I am from Brazil

I used MSN Messenger (until MS killed and managed to kill their IM dominance), and pulled shady stunts with my phone (for example calling, saying a word, and immediately cutting connection, calling again... doing this is free for some reason).

If it was REALLY needed, I would use SMS, it was easy to make mistakes there though (a couple times I ended spending 150 USD in a month in SMS, usually in extremely stressful months where communication was essential).

The need to replace SMS was obvious, and I even had a company where I worked ask me to start researching into how to do it (this was in early 2011, I think some similar stuff already existed in US?), but this project never went anywhere.

And a technical note: doing the phone shenanigans I used to, can get you literally banned from the phone line, I was banned about 3 times (you keep your phone line, and can receive calls, but can't make any except to emergency services), but the only reason I had the phone was to do that stuff anyway (this was when I was still in school, and was the only way to communicate with my then SO, since I couldn't afford spending with real calls or SMS, because of how absurdly expensive they were... mind you, they STILL are absurdly expensive).

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by guhcampos on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @07:22PM (#11625014)
I'm not even sure. I remember giving Kik a go in the early days of smartphones, but all of a sudden everyone was using WhatsApp. My own social circle used to prefer Kik since it had features like Location sharing way before WhatsApp did.

It could be that WhatsApp was the first to get translated to Brazilian Portuguese, and since I've always used the English version I never noticed. Even if English is taught as a second language in all schools, most Brazilians can't read or write English, so this is a big deal.

Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by notliketherest on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @07:29PM (#11625054)
SMS. It is VERY expensive in Brazil
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by erik14th on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @08:39PM (#11625370)
whatsapp thrived in part due to the fact that it works on a lot of devices and in a lot of cases supported devices no one else did before their competitors.
Re:WhatsApp is back online in Brazil by revelation on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @07:21PM (#11625007)
Orkut

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