Re:A Basic Income Should Be the Next Big Thing
by dragonwriter on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @06:13PM
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On the issue of children, non citizens, etc., my personal view of the best way for a UBI to work are:
> What about children? Does a child get the same as an adult?
Maybe; if so, the child's allotment goes to the legal guardian (and, like the guardian's own UBI, is treated as income for tax and other purposes), but you also eliminate child-care related tax deductions and credits.
> What about non-citizens who are in the nation legally? What about non-citizens who are in the nation illegally?
I would lean toward saying citizens and legal permanent residents (green card holders) get UBI. Others do not (note that this includes non-immigrant work visa holders, like H-1Bs), though in the odd case of a non-UBI-eligible (but legally present) parent with a UBI-eligible child, the parent would be eligible to draw the child's UBI, just as a parent with their own UBI eligibility with a UBI-eligible child would.
> What about citizen children of non-citizens who are in the nation illegally?
That's...trickier. My preference would be that the citizen child would get an allotment, but that the guardian would have to normalize status to draw that allotment. The details of that are more for a discussion of immigration policy than UBI policy though.
An even trickier question is non-resident citizens, and particularly non-resident U.S. citizen children of non-resident non-citizens.
> What about children? Does a child get the same as an adult?
Maybe; if so, the child's allotment goes to the legal guardian (and, like the guardian's own UBI, is treated as income for tax and other purposes), but you also eliminate child-care related tax deductions and credits.
> What about non-citizens who are in the nation legally? What about non-citizens who are in the nation illegally?
I would lean toward saying citizens and legal permanent residents (green card holders) get UBI. Others do not (note that this includes non-immigrant work visa holders, like H-1Bs), though in the odd case of a non-UBI-eligible (but legally present) parent with a UBI-eligible child, the parent would be eligible to draw the child's UBI, just as a parent with their own UBI eligibility with a UBI-eligible child would.
> What about citizen children of non-citizens who are in the nation illegally?
That's...trickier. My preference would be that the citizen child would get an allotment, but that the guardian would have to normalize status to draw that allotment. The details of that are more for a discussion of immigration policy than UBI policy though.
An even trickier question is non-resident citizens, and particularly non-resident U.S. citizen children of non-resident non-citizens.