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Re:Why European Children Are Quieter by seanmcdirmid on Monday May 02, 2016 @11:01PM (#11617539)
Oh man oh man, I'm American, and nothing can compare to a restaurant in China....70 db, 80 db? Yep. Kid playing with their iPad on full volume at the table next to you? Not a problem. Cell phone ringers are set to max volume because...everywhere is just so loud. And there seems to be no problem with jack hammer/dump truck construction outside my window at 2AM in the morning.

First vs. third world problems, I guess.

Re:Why European Children Are Quieter by sdm on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @01:40AM (#11618201)
Ummm... China is not a third world country. It was a second world country. In fact the whole point of the definition of first/second/third world revolves around China, the USSR, and their allies being the second world.

What you mean to say is China is a developing country. Please leave the old out dated and irrelevant cold war propaganda terminology in the past where it belongs. Remember, Switzerland and Sweden are both canonical examples of third world countries: they were allied with neither the UK/US block or the China/USSR block. Likewise, just because a country is a first world country doesn't mean it's rich -- some of the poorest countries in the world are first world countries, like Namibia.

Re:Why European Children Are Quieter by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @02:01AM (#11618282)
I know what you are saying, and I get "China is still a developing country" clobbered into my skull almost everyday. Third world just sounds better in contrast to first world, especially when prefixed by "problems"; there are no subreddits for developed and developing world problems, but they exist for first and third world problems (https://www.reddit.com/r/thirdworldproblems and https://www.reddit.com/r/firstworldproblems). It seems that third-world has evolved past its old cold war meaning to just mean "developing world"; here is what Google says on its title card for a search on "third world" (https://www.google.com/search?q=third+world+problems&oq=thir...):

    Third World
    noun
    the developing countries of Asia, Africa, and Latin America.
(I think Google gets this from Oxford, first world problems comes from http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=First%20World...). If one wants to explore the old meaning, we have to go to wiki, and even wiki says:

> Over the last few decades since the fall of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War, the term Third World has been used interchangeably with the least developed countries, the Global South, and developing countries to describe poorer countries that have struggled to attain steady economic development, a term that often includes "Second World" countries like Laos. This usage, however, has become less preferred in recent years.[1]

Remember that words can change meaning over the years, even if they do not remain true to their old meanings. This is just another way our language evolves. An attachment to the old meaning of a term is usually not going to sway people's opinion of the word's definition.

Re:Why European Children Are Quieter by cromulent on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @02:12AM (#11618318)
Technically Switzerland and Finland are third world countries by the original definition. That's not very useful in modern conversation though, just as describing happy people as gay is not useful.
Re:Why European Children Are Quieter by GijsjanB on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @01:04AM (#11618050)
China is a third world country?
Re:Why European Children Are Quieter by adventured on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @01:27AM (#11618149)
Yes, speaking in regards to the economic concept, more than half of China is still a third world country.

They have about 900 million people living on $7 or less per day. Half a billion people there are living on $3-$4 or less per day. Of the poorest two billion people on earth, more than 1/3 are in China. Their income numbers for the bottom 50% compare with the poorest nations on earth.

Granted, the problem with China is it possesses the most inequality of any major nation between the top 50% and the bottom 50%, due to the vast rural vs east coast gap in incomes. The nation with the second most billionaires, that has half a billion people living as subsistence farmers.

Re:Why European Children Are Quieter by sdm on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @01:43AM (#11618213)
First/second/third world is not an economic concept. Both Namibia and the Philippines are first world countries. Both Switzerland and Sweden (and Austria too) are third world countries. China -- by the very definition of the first/second/third world -- is a second world country.

Please use the proper terms: developed and developing.

Re:Why European Children Are Quieter by majewsky on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @04:52AM (#11618951)
Please accept that definitions change over time, and it doesn't help if you're complaining about your definition being stuck in the past. The global narrative moves on regardless.