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Re:Who's downloading pirated papers? Everyone by a_bonobo on Friday April 29, 2016 @03:20AM (#11594244)
Your career is based on how "good" the journals are that you publish in.

If I publish a paper in Nature, Nature Genetics, Science, etc. then I can hand-pick my next position. The more glam-journals I publish in, the better my chances for tenure.

Re:Who's downloading pirated papers? Everyone by TheOtherHobbes on Friday April 29, 2016 @04:26AM (#11594411)
This is why the scam is so insidious. The journals are really squatting on academic output so they can be gatekeepers of academic status and of career prospects.

The product of publishing isn't the dissemination of insight and innovation, but of gold stars academics can put on their resumes.

Sci-Hub doesn't just threaten copyright, but the entire status factory.

Re:Who's downloading pirated papers? Everyone by oarsinsync on Friday April 29, 2016 @03:43AM (#11594307)
Can you cross-publish / self-publish as well?
Re:Who's downloading pirated papers? Everyone by rspeer on Friday April 29, 2016 @03:46AM (#11594315)
In practice, people often just put a "draft" of the paper on their personal website without telling their publisher.

Papers in fancy journals are more prestigious, but the papers that get cited the most are the ones with full text freely available on the Web. So, when they can, scientists choose both.

(The better way to do this is to support a publisher that's both high-quality and open-access and submit to their journal.)

Re:Who's downloading pirated papers? Everyone by a3_nm on Friday April 29, 2016 @09:37AM (#11595600)
It depends on the venue. In computer science, it is often possible, but there are often weird restrictions: embargo delay, only the preprint, must include a link to the publisher version, only on a personal webpage or on certain kinds of repositories, copyright assignment has been signed as well, etc. So you don't always feel comfortable doing it.

Further, we academics are incentivized, in terms of career, to publish in prestigious venues managed by official publishers. We aren't incentivized to publish in open access repositories as well. So, even though most of us want our articles to be disseminated widely, not all of us can find the time to make sure that the paper is also available on an open repository. This is a factor that explains why many articles are not available for free online even in cases where it would be legal for researchers to upload them.

Re:Who's downloading pirated papers? Everyone by throwawaybookst on Friday April 29, 2016 @10:38PM (#11600072)
Don't people in CS just ignore that crap and post free PDFs of "preprints" (taken the second before submission of camera ready) on personal websites?

IME the publishers fuck up the formatting anyways.

Re:Who's downloading pirated papers? Everyone by drewm1980 on Saturday April 30, 2016 @08:25AM (#11601421)
Yes. Yes they do. RE formatting, publishers ~do enforce page limits, which has value... if you're publishing on paper.
Re:Who's downloading pirated papers? Everyone by Vespasian on Friday April 29, 2016 @04:24AM (#11594407)
It depends on the venue.

In my field of computer science (visual analytics / visualizations) at least some of the leading journals/conferences officially allow you to put a version of the paper on your website.

Just today we submitted a paper where the copyright form explicitly mentions that.

Re:Who's downloading pirated papers? Everyone by chris_wot on Friday April 29, 2016 @04:51AM (#11594489)
How... generous?
Re:Who's downloading pirated papers? Everyone by Vespasian on Friday April 29, 2016 @05:07AM (#11594539)
I did not imply that I'm happy with the situation, but sadly it is a fact scientists have to deal with right now.
Re:Who's downloading pirated papers? Everyone by chris_wot on Friday April 29, 2016 @05:52AM (#11594675)
Well... They sort of don't any more. People just go to sci-hub!
Re:Who's downloading pirated papers? Everyone by JupiterMoon on Friday April 29, 2016 @03:48AM (#11594323)
It depends upon your field and your country but many journals require a copyright assignment. They also often require that the work has not been published elsewhere previously.