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Re:How Cheap Can Electric Vehicles Get? by blisterpeanuts on Thursday April 28, 2016 @11:40PM (#11593628)
Here's some numbers that establish that larger vehicles are generally safer:

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/driver-death-rates

Compare the death rates of small, tiny, and midsize sedans (2011 data is the latest).

Then look at large SUVs. Huge difference. "All vehicles" = 28. Most of the large SUVs are single digits, most of the smaller cars are well above 28.

Curiously, Ford Expedition 2WD is above average and is an exception. I would love to understand why because it's a huge vehicle. The Ford Expedition 4WD is way at the other end, 5 deaths. Perhaps it has something to do with how people drive, or some flaw in how it handles.

Most trucks are pretty safe, but the Ford F-150 4WD has above average death rates, and is the most popular single model of pickup truck. I wonder if this is because lots of people buy this truck who don't really know how to drive a truck.

Anyway, some interesting data to explore there. Although as I pointed out, there are some outliers, in general the data lines up with the contention that larger vehicles are safer.

Re:How Cheap Can Electric Vehicles Get? by Grishnakh on Friday April 29, 2016 @12:36PM (#11596854)
>Most trucks are pretty safe, but the Ford F-150 4WD has above average death rates, and is the most popular single model of pickup truck. I wonder if this is because lots of people buy this truck who don't really know how to drive a truck.

No, it's probably because it's a truck with a body-on-frame chassis instead of a unibody chassis like any modern vehicle, and was designed for towing and load-hauling rather than crash protection. If you want crash protection, you need to buy a vehicle with a modern chassis that was expressly designed for it. Same goes for the Expedition. And yes, handling could be a factor too: these vehicles have horrible handling and can't avoid accidents the way a good-handling vehicle can, and will frequently roll over.

Re:How Cheap Can Electric Vehicles Get? by JoeAltmaier on Friday April 29, 2016 @12:42PM (#11596894)
I don't believe any American car will roll over in normal driving. They will skid. Unless a tire catches on a curb or something. So in normal highway driving rollover is very unlikely.
Re:How Cheap Can Electric Vehicles Get? by Grishnakh on Friday April 29, 2016 @05:08PM (#11598777)
Not true: trucks and SUVs absolutely will roll over. They even have warnings when there's high winds about it, because they can be blown over.

And just try doing a panic turn (to avoid something) in a tall SUV and see what happens.

You can't just ignore the laws of physics. Center-of-gravity is an important thing.

Re:How Cheap Can Electric Vehicles Get? by JoeAltmaier on Friday April 29, 2016 @05:52PM (#11599013)
I see from Consumer Reports that tipping does sometimes happen. And not just from 'tripping'.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2012/02/rollover-101/inde...

Re:How Cheap Can Electric Vehicles Get? by arethuza on Friday April 29, 2016 @05:44AM (#11594649)
I still think there is a need to normalize for the amount each vehicle is driven - so that it is deaths/injuries per mile driven not per time period.