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Re:Type III Societies (Apparently) Do Not Exist by sgt101 on Thursday April 28, 2016 @04:27PM (#11591675)
I wonder what ants think of airports? Or what mice believe about tube trains as they scuttle under the platform.

We are separated from mice (or at least somewhat similar animals) by approximately 40m years of evolution, I think that the separation to a Galaxy altering level entity would be much more profound, and frankly we wouldn't understand what it was if it came and tickled us.

Re:Type III Societies (Apparently) Do Not Exist by xemoka on Thursday April 28, 2016 @04:39PM (#11591746)
We are in no way separated by 40m years of evolution. Our common ancestor 'is'. That mouse you see today has been evolving just as long as you have, but with different priorities.
Re:Type III Societies (Apparently) Do Not Exist by gohrt on Thursday April 28, 2016 @05:34PM (#11592078)
Our common ancestor 'is' what?

We are separated from mice by 80million years of evolution -- 40million from the common ancestor, and 40million to the other modern species.

Or simply 40million years of divergent evolution.

Re:Type III Societies (Apparently) Do Not Exist by coldtea on Thursday April 28, 2016 @04:52PM (#11591812)
Technically yes, but practically the mouse reached a more or less standard form millions of years ago, in a local maximum, and we've been developing into all that we are mostly far more recently and represent a far more advanced form with lots of metrics (fitness to local environment is not the be all end all metric -- just the one evolution uses).
Re:Type III Societies (Apparently) Do Not Exist by Grishnakh on Friday April 29, 2016 @05:03PM (#11598747)
This isn't true for all species, it's (in a way) different depending on species. Your statement assumes that evolution is a constant, time-dependent process; it isn't.

For an example, I point to the horseshoe crab. We're separated by x million years of evolution from the horseshoe crab, because at some point there's a common ancestor. Its ancestor evolved to the horseshoe crab, millions of years ago, and then stopped. Meanwhile, our ancestor continued to evolve into us. The horseshoe crab is a prehistoric animal, a "living fossil". It hasn't evolved significantly in millions of years. This is quite different from mice.

Another example is the coelacanth fish; it was thought to be long-extinct as we have prehistoric fossils of it dating to the dinosaur days. Turns out it's still alive. Another less-extreme example is the shark: it's a little different than its prehistoric ancestors, but not much. I'm sure a biologist could point to a bunch of other species that haven't changed significantly since the days of the dinosaurs.

Mammals like mice have indeed been evolving just as long as we have, but many non-mammalian species have not.

Re:Type III Societies (Apparently) Do Not Exist by sgt101 on Friday April 29, 2016 @04:16AM (#11594393)
Hello - I said "somewhat similar animals" by which I meant very early primates who were a bit like squirrels and mice. I should have made it a bit clearer!

I did get the date wrong - I should have said 65my.

Here is a link

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/five-early-prim...

Re:Type III Societies (Apparently) Do Not Exist by moret1979 on Thursday April 28, 2016 @05:12PM (#11591916)
Good point. Separation can be even greater since each is 40M apart from a common ancestor.