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Re:Atari co-founder: mobile games make me want to throw my p... by djsumdog on Thursday April 28, 2016 @11:59AM (#11589818)
I really like Ridiculous Fishing.

The guy who made Braid has similar talks, comparing mobile games, arcade games and 90s syndicated sitcoms. They only keep you entertained long enough to insert another coin or make it through a commercial break.

The good mobile games, like you've mentioned, focus on creating a good engaging game without micro-transactions. They earn less. Games with micro-transactions have like a 70% ~ 80% drop rate when you get to the point where you need to pay to make the progress non-painful. That remaining little group is their revenue. Occasionally you get a "whale" that will drop $500 ~ $1000 or more on a game!

I knew game developers who talked about this. It kinda makes me feel sick. Either they have a lot of money, or they're just compulsive. In the later, you're taking advantage of people in the same way casinos take advantage of gamblers. "Whale" is a term used by both industries.

Fuck in-game purchases.

Re:Atari co-founder: mobile games make me want to throw my p... by echeese on Thursday April 28, 2016 @12:08PM (#11589869)
At that point, you don't have fans, you've got addicts.
Re:Atari co-founder: mobile games make me want to throw my p... by Loque on Thursday April 28, 2016 @12:52PM (#11590216)
Known as whales in the industry I believe - they are actively targeted and it is a disgusting strategy :-(
Re:Atari co-founder: mobile games make me want to throw my p... by mnem on Thursday April 28, 2016 @01:40PM (#11590599)
It's a gambling term. Which gives you an idea about the ethos behind it :)
Re:Atari co-founder: mobile games make me want to throw my p... by ZeroGravitas on Saturday April 30, 2016 @02:46AM (#11600695)
There was an article about the number 1 Clash of Clans player. He took two iPads in clear plastic bags into the shower with him to maintain this position.

He actually sounds like someone you'd meet on HN, he was lonely after moving to SF for a job, that's how be got into the game:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/12/22/technology/master-of-hi...

Re:Atari co-founder: mobile games make me want to throw my p... by st3v3r on Thursday April 28, 2016 @02:11PM (#11590813)
The problem is, in most cases, you either do these kinds of things, or you don't make any money. Mobile users have been trained by the race to the bottom that games and apps should be free, and so they are highly reluctant to pay for stuff.
Re:Atari co-founder: mobile games make me want to throw my p... by joslin01 on Thursday April 28, 2016 @03:55PM (#11591494)
Game Dev Story is fun and has no micro-purchases. I was hooked for a couple weeks straight.