Re:How Cheap Can Electric Vehicles Get?
by felixlechat on Thursday April 28, 2016 @04:34PM
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We have super cheap car in Europe which cost much less (see Dacia). And for exemple, Renault is selling a 3500€ car in India (https://www.renault.co.in/vehicles/personal-cars/kwid.html). As a note, this same auto manufacturer is leader of electric car in Europe with Renault Zoe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Zoe), even if sells are disapointing due to poor autonomy.
Re:How Cheap Can Electric Vehicles Get?
by mywittyname on Thursday April 28, 2016 @04:46PM
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Yes, but that's a compact car, not a van.
The Renault Lodgy is more a more appropriate comparison and it starts around 9 lakh ($13500/12000€)in India. Which is still substantially more than our $8k target price.
Re:How Cheap Can Electric Vehicles Get?
by felixlechat on Thursday April 28, 2016 @05:01PM
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Right, but I can imagine Renault doing a van on the same basis. From 4000$(3500€) to 8000$ is a huge gap for changing only the auto body.
It is also funny to see that Dacia Lodgy is more expensive in India than here in France with more regulation where it cost 9900€ (http://www.dacia.fr/gamme-dacia/lodgy/), closer to your target price.
The reason I know this is because the VW Minibus, which was engineered in the 40s has been sold in Brazil from 1953-2013 with very little change. Want to know how much a brand new van designed 60 years ago would cost you? $18,000 USD.
That's a vehicle whose engineering and equipment was paid for decades ago, that received numerous exemptions to tightening safety and emission standards and could be produced in a region with cheap labor. It was also the cheapest vehicle of its kind on the Brazilian market.
Super cheap cars like the Versa are really only possible because Nissan figured out how to build value without making money. The $11k stripper model is a good for marketing (i.e., inflated fuel economy #; generates interest in the low price, even if they aren't viable), money can be made on the back-end (financing), lowers lease residuals, it can be used to keep factories at full capacity, and helps negotiate lower prices with suppliers.