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Re:An AI First World by Smaug123 on Thursday April 28, 2016 @03:32AM (#11587069)
Does this article actually say anything? I feel like I could summarise it as "Famous person said <thing>. What does <thing> mean? I'm not really sure. I think they're right and <thing> is going to be big."
Re:An AI First World by rdl on Thursday April 28, 2016 @05:06AM (#11587379)
Fred Wilson is actually more famous than Sundar Pichai, at least in some circles. In this case it is "famous and influential investor says other famous person says X is going to be big, and he agrees", which is a useful data point for the 10k people who will now pitch AI startups to USV over the next week.

(I also wish it said more, but his blog comments tend to have better discussions than even hn, sometimes, so maybe he is just trying to kick that off. I wish it were a better technology for commenting, though.)

Re:An AI First World by forloop on Thursday April 28, 2016 @05:31AM (#11587475)
sigmaalgebra's comments are pretty fucking epic, on this post.
Re:An AI First World by telotortium on Thursday April 28, 2016 @12:13PM (#11589906)
That's the same guy that posts as @graycat here on HN. Most of his posts espouse the wonders of hardcore applied math, often with a comprehensive bibliography, so he seems to know what he's talking about, although his rambling (and, to be fair, somewhat off-topic) style does him no favors on HN, which is why his posts almost always end up at the bottom of the comments here (see also @michaelochurch).
Re:An AI First World by forloop on Thursday April 28, 2016 @12:52PM (#11590222)
Michael O. Church got modded off of HN for being critical of certain aspects of YC (according to him).
Re:An AI First World by panic on Thursday April 28, 2016 @09:09PM (#11593133)
You can see for yourself why he was banned: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10017538
Re:An AI First World by jraines on Thursday April 28, 2016 @01:40PM (#11590593)
True, but it's more b/c his criticism of VC and PG specifically has a Captain Ahab level of intensity and persistence, which can get in the way of discussing, well, anything else.
Re:An AI First World by telotortium on Friday April 29, 2016 @01:32AM (#11593925)
Exactly, which is why I made the connection.

Still, the "single-issue commenter", as exemplified by both of them, can be valuable to a good community. @michaelochurch's writings have definitely shaped my thoughts, so kudos for him, and, if I were in the position to use it, @graycat's bibliographies would be rewarding to mine (unless his knowledge is outdated, as @barrkel suggests). Yet I can't help but get the impression that the single-issue commenter is very prone to overexposing themself, especially if a large proportion of their comments are multi-thousand word diatribes that recycle most of the same themes. Not to mention, people readily pattern-match prolix commenters to complete crackpots, even though both those users seem to be above that level. My impression is that single-issue commenters would be best served by posting a lot for a year or so, followed by some time to lie low -- if their contributions to the discussion around their issue are really valuable, their posts should stay in moderate circulation as other users refer to them in later discussion.

Re:An AI First World by barrkel on Thursday April 28, 2016 @08:17PM (#11592900)
He displays a lot of knowledge, but also doesn't look fully mentally with it. He has trouble controlling verbosity and keeping things relevant and on-topic. It's also not clear how much up to date knowledge he has; he writes like an old man complaining about the foolish optimism of youth.
Re:An AI First World by naivepiano on Thursday April 28, 2016 @06:02AM (#11587600)
My feelings exactly. Authority/fame coupled with AI hype (in fashion again these days).

Also _not_ clarifying that we are not dealing with any sort of hard AI (which is what the layman understands by AI) is always a bad sign.

All in all just a marketing piece.

Re:An AI First World by fredwilson on Thursday April 28, 2016 @06:53AM (#11587803)
it asks a question. or several. so i can learn. it was not designed to say anything. it was designed to stimulate conversation so i can learn and others can learn alongside of me.
Re:An AI First World by tryitnow on Thursday April 28, 2016 @11:13AM (#11589448)
I'm glad I read this comment before wasting time on reading the article. Thanks!