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Re:iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs by FussyZeus on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @05:46PM (#11575965)
Apple doesn't innovate terribly much, there were smart phones before the iPhone, the iPhone was just a better one. There were tablets before the iPad and the iPad was just a better tablet.

Apple's strength isn't in coming up with NEW things, I would say quite the opposite as they're usually very late into any given market. Apple's strength is coming up with products that are better than the ones that came before, in their Apple-y way.

Re:iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs by vtlynch on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @06:03PM (#11576095)
Since when does innovating really mean making something new? I think that already has its own word: inventing.

"Innovating" is a business buzz word. Its not meaningless, but I think that its meaning is far from inventing/creating.

Re:iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs by Spooky23 on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @06:12PM (#11576158)
The options prior were half-dead PalmOS, Windows CE devices like the iPaq, and the Blackberry.

The blackberry was the ultimate pager, but didn't have a functional web browser. The Windows device was pretty much awful, and PalmOS was waiting for euthanasia.

Re:iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs by stouset on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @06:01PM (#11576084)
And how do you not consider this innovation?

Innovating isn't just about inventing new technology wholesale. It's also about packaging that technology in a way that makes it useful and desirable.

Re:iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs by FussyZeus on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @10:58AM (#11580961)
That's actually a really good point, I guess my definition could use some work.
Re:iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs by petra on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @06:09PM (#11576129)
In the past this has been true because their exceptional design skills. But companies learned that skill, it's not unique to Apple anymore. So for example, the Apple watch isn't objectively significantly better than Google's Watch OS.

But Apple still has a lot of resources and capabilities it can deploy to make something a sucsess, like any other big company, so maybe that's what we should except from the current Apple - altough considering the circumstances - this can be very lucrative.