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Re:The driverless truck is coming, and it’s going to automat... by AndrewKemendo on Monday April 25, 2016 @11:28PM (#11569233)
I think the flaw here is assuming that the systems around the truck will stay the same - including the truck form factor. Without the required creature comforts of the tractor, you free up a lot of energy (heat/cool) and space (bed/TV etc...) in the cab.

I can also see traffic lanes being created to support commerce, special easement areas for trucks at stops that don't have to support showers/food/bathrooms etc... reducing overall cost.

All of this comes at cost to human workers - but it's inevitable.

Re:The driverless truck is coming, and it’s going to automat... by pm24601 on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @12:49AM (#11569523)
> All of this comes at cost to human workers - but it's inevitable.

I disagree. Specifically, you are assuming that the human workers will quietly accept their fate.

Re:The driverless truck is coming, and it’s going to automat... by djrogers on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @01:24AM (#11569625)
Not quietly, no, but it's no less inevitable.

History is full of jobs that have been automated away, and few of those historical examples offered a more obvious and large payoff.

Re:The driverless truck is coming, and it’s going to automat... by pm24601 on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @05:50AM (#11570548)
I do notice you are avoiding my central point:

With railroads, there is not an economic incentive for automation.

One commentator suggested that driverless trucks would have to be separated from human drivers. Railroads have this thing called "tracks"

Another suggested the wonderful advantage of a driverless truck not getting into accidents. Railroads have an excellent safety record.

Driverless trucks as a way to reduce the need to spend money on humans. Railroads need only 2 humans for 100+ unit train that is equivalent to 300 or so trucks. ( 1 railcar = 3 truckloads https://www.chrobinson.com/en/us/Logistics/Intermodal-Rail/C... )

Trains are 10x more ( http://grist.org/article/freight-trains-19th-century-technol... ) more energy efficient than trucks.

What is the economic model to use driverless trucks? Sure the trucking industry will push for this. But the railroad industry has so many natural advantages.

Re:The driverless truck is coming, and it’s going to automat... by icebraining on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @08:07AM (#11571103)
What is the economic model to use driverless trucks?

The same as for trucks with drivers (only cheaper) and those already control much of the transportation business.

Re:The driverless truck is coming, and it’s going to automat... by unprepare on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @08:01AM (#11571077)
>What is the economic model to use driverless trucks?

Road goes to more places than train tracks.

You dont really need more than that...

Re:The driverless truck is coming, and it’s going to automat... by lunchTime42 on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @02:41AM (#11569879)
Butlerian Jihad! You shall not have thinking machines.
Re:The driverless truck is coming, and it’s going to automat... by elihu on Tuesday April 26, 2016 @01:58PM (#11574128)
"I think the flaw here is assuming that the systems around the truck will stay the same"

That's an interesting point. I wonder if self-driving trucks will tend to be smaller, because there's less incentive to amortize the wages of the driver by making his/her truck as large as possible.