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Re:Bank of Japan Is an Estimated Top 10 Holder in 90% of the... by toomuchtodo on Monday April 25, 2016 @11:02AM (#11564633)
Let's not write off this extreme form of QE if Japan can keep its quality of life high at the same time.
Re:Bank of Japan Is an Estimated Top 10 Holder in 90% of the... by hashberry on Monday April 25, 2016 @12:56PM (#11565556)
Quality of life? Japan's poverty level is at record highs.[0]

"Bookshops advertise a slew of bestsellers on how to survive on an annual income of under ¥2m ($16,700), a poverty line below which millions of Japanese now live."

[0]http://www.economist.com/news/asia/21647676-poverty-worsens-...

Re:Bank of Japan Is an Estimated Top 10 Holder in 90% of the... by HillaryBriss on Monday April 25, 2016 @03:41PM (#11566769)
The thing about this is that national poverty statistics don't tell the whole story. They just offer a rough summary.

Things really are different in Japan, even in the impoverished parts. From the same Economist article: "The country has long prided itself on ensuring that none of its citizens falls between the social cracks. Japan’s orderly, slum-free neighbourhoods seem to confirm that. Street crime, even in Kotobuki, is minuscule. Unemployment is below 4% ... "

Compare that to the "choice parts" of downtown Los Angeles or the Tenderloin in SF. Despite many decades of fighting poverty, many many people still fall through the holes in the US social safety nets.

Japan also builds better cars.

Re:Bank of Japan Is an Estimated Top 10 Holder in 90% of the... by toomuchtodo on Wednesday April 27, 2016 @05:22PM (#11584679)
This hits the nail on the head. As a US citizen who has lived in the US for 32 years, I'd rather live in poverty in Japan than middle class in LA, SF, or NYC.
Re:Bank of Japan Is an Estimated Top 10 Holder in 90% of the... by technocodes on Monday April 25, 2016 @11:06AM (#11564659)
That's a little short sighted dont you think?
Re:Bank of Japan Is an Estimated Top 10 Holder in 90% of the... by toomuchtodo on Monday April 25, 2016 @11:09AM (#11564677)
How so? Japan's been trying for decades to stoke growth, is unable to, and has (IMHO) a pretty high standard of living. Correct me? Abenomics is fairly recent, but you can't create demand in a country with a declining population.

EDIT: Stop optimizing for GDP. Optimize for quality of life.

Re:Bank of Japan Is an Estimated Top 10 Holder in 90% of the... by technocodes on Monday April 25, 2016 @11:22AM (#11564783)
This works in the short run, but the Japanese have been in an economic hole for a long time. They are printing money to keep assets afloat, but this wont work forever and they know it. The whole thing is fake, and fake doenst last forever.
Re:Bank of Japan Is an Estimated Top 10 Holder in 90% of the... by toomuchtodo on Monday April 25, 2016 @11:40AM (#11564929)
It's lasted what, 20 years so far? You say it won't work forever; we can't just reproduce ourselves out of the problem (by encouraging policies the promote couples to have more children).

At some point, we will decide growth is over and isn't coming back. It feels like we're close to that point. And good! You can have a great quality of life without neverending growth.