5,000 Developers Talk About Their Salaries

Re:5,000 Developers Talk About Their Salaries by imaginenore on Saturday April 23, 2016 @11:17AM (#11555879)

If you want to prove the pay gap with data, at least do it correctly. You need to control for things like:

1) Experience

2) Education

3) Number of hours worked

4) Negotiation skills + actual attempts to negotiate the pay

5) Taking risks

Pretty much every study that did that arrived to the same conclusion - there's no pay gap. We have men who work more, have better education, more experience, work longer hours, negotiate better and more often, and take on risky projects more often.

If women developers were cheaper and just as effective, wouldn't you just hire women?

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Re:5,000 Developers Talk About Their Salaries by perflexive on Saturday April 23, 2016 @11:24AM (#11555917)

[citation needed]

I've seen at least 1 study that showed controlling for those factors (and many others) reduces, but doesn't come close to eliminating the pay gap. Iirc, there's still ~7% unaccounted for.

I believe it's a widely held misconception that pay discrimination doesn't exist.

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Re:5,000 Developers Talk About Their Salaries by imaginenore on Saturday April 23, 2016 @12:45PM (#11556258)

It's your job to prove that there's a gap attributed to gender, specifically. Good luck showing us even one such study.

When PayScale did their study, they controlled for some of the obvious factors, and the gap pretty much disappeared. They obviously didn't control for everything.

http://www.payscale.com/gender-lifetime-earnings-gap

You can also find a niche in which men or women make more, that's inevitable, just due to the randomness of the salaries. I'm yet to see any evidence for the systemic discrimination.

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