Re:San Francisco Is Requiring Solar Panels on All New Buildings
by krisdol on Friday April 22, 2016 @03:52PM
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Germany has been charging for bags at the store for at least 25 years. I don't understand how Americans have so much trouble with the most inconsequential of amenities they are asked to provide the environment.
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Re:San Francisco Is Requiring Solar Panels on All New Buildings
by maxerickson on Friday April 22, 2016 @03:55PM
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You're shoving words in my mouth. I don't care about bag taxes, I think it's stupid we pay so much attention to them and ignore things that are far more harmful. And we do ignore them, so it's not simply a case of being able to do both, the bags really do seem to be capturing attention from more pressing issues.
Re:San Francisco Is Requiring Solar Panels on All New Buildings
by KirinDave on Friday April 22, 2016 @09:18PM
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Why shouldn't we pay attention to them as well as the larger things? Especially in America where the harsh reality is were going to have to change our lifestyles a lot over the next 50 years, boiling the frog is probably the best way to keep everyone calm.
I mean, water alone is going to be a major issue for California.
Re:San Francisco Is Requiring Solar Panels on All New Buildings
by maxerickson on Friday April 22, 2016 @11:15PM
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I think it is pretty clear that energy is going to get cheaper and cleaner. This helps a lot with household water use (agricultural volumes are still pretty expensive).
Figuring out how to make the benefits of the growing economy more widely available seems like a pretty big problem, but I don't think that consumption in the US will have to decrease in any meaningful way.
Re:San Francisco Is Requiring Solar Panels on All New Buildings
by marincounty on Friday April 22, 2016 @04:17PM
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It's not being charged for bags. In the states, we just have too many dubious laws. People can't bring in even a small backpack into most stores, without leaving it with the guy would could care less at the front of the store? Most stores are located vechicle distances away from most Americans.
It's not the bag, it's a cornucopia of bigger problems, poor planning, stifling regulation only enacted to generate revenue, etc. we are projecting on a bag.
Re:San Francisco Is Requiring Solar Panels on All New Buildings
by smileysteve on Friday April 22, 2016 @07:50PM
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Interesting, in Atlanta, I do must of my shopping with a backpack and haven't been asked to leave it at the front of the store or have it checked for years.
Re:San Francisco Is Requiring Solar Panels on All New Buildings
by rjbwork on Friday April 22, 2016 @09:05PM
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Ditto. I've been asked to have my receipt and bag inspected before. I politely decline and don't break stride...not like they can do anything but get the police to come harass me, only to find I've done nothing wrong, which police rather dislike - in a 'boy who cried wolf' sense.