Re:Anthropic Capitalism and the New Gimmick Economy
by seibelj on Thursday April 21, 2016 @10:52PM
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The point the author was making was that computer files are fundamentally different than physical goods. But software engineers don't produce "computer files" for sale. They make products and services. Whether it's a file or not is meaningless, and the abstract idea of a "computer file" being a public good is inaccurate.
Re:Anthropic Capitalism and the New Gimmick Economy
by toomuchtodo on Thursday April 21, 2016 @10:54PM
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Well, it does get a bit murky. A book is a physical good. An ebook is not. But if I print an ebook out, it is now a physical good.
TL;DR Things are complicated. We keep trying to find physical world analogies for the digital space, and that just isn't going to work well.
Re:Anthropic Capitalism and the New Gimmick Economy
by fleitz on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:42AM
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Books aren't really physical goods, economically for all intents and purposes they are very similar to digital goods as the cost of reproduction is near zero which is why books like digital goods fall under copyright law.
Re:Anthropic Capitalism and the New Gimmick Economy
by toomuchtodo on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:48AM
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And what happens when physical goods become similar to digital goods and can be replicated at zero marginal cost?
It won't happen tomorrow, or a year from now, but it'll happen in our lifetime.
Re:Anthropic Capitalism and the New Gimmick Economy
by fleitz on Friday April 22, 2016 @01:57AM
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I'm betting on UBI / Star Trek, others see violent revolution / Fallout 4.
Essentially, humanity is freed from 'work'
Re:Anthropic Capitalism and the New Gimmick Economy
by brbsix on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:01AM
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An ebook is still a physical good in a sense. The data (or some portion of it) rests on a medium in your possesion (even if only temporarily). As we all know, there are significant costs involved in creating, advertising, distributing, maintaining said digital good. The costs and subsidies (e.g. open source software, government research, corsortiums) are just distributed in a vastly different way, so much so that to some it may seem to be a free lunch (despite being far from it).
Re:Anthropic Capitalism and the New Gimmick Economy
by tamana on Friday April 22, 2016 @11:42AM
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The cost to create and maintain a public good are not relevantly to its "publicness". Only the cost to access it is.
Clean air and national securty also cost money to maintain, but have no user fees.
Re:Anthropic Capitalism and the New Gimmick Economy
by tamana on Friday April 22, 2016 @01:48AM
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Digital objects that are torrentable are public goods. This includes media files and local machine software but not web services.
Re:Anthropic Capitalism and the New Gimmick Economy
by toomuchtodo on Friday April 22, 2016 @11:51AM
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You could torrent a web service if the app was dockerized, the docker containers were part of the torrent file, and the underlying datastore (files or a DB) were also included.
It could be, it just depends on who owns the web service. Could be a corporation, could be a social-minded B corp, or could be a non-profit.
https://letsencrypt.org/ is run by a non-profit, and would be considered a public service. Consider how much "profit" they're removing from the economy by offering the service for free, and yet one could argue the value of every site able to obtain an SSL cert to receive free TLS support is greater than that profit.