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Re:Alphabet slides 5% after missing earnings expectations on... by wstrange on Thursday April 21, 2016 @08:36PM (#11546320)
Cloud.

I think they are very serious about becoming the market leader in this space. They are behind AWS, but if they can leverage the same technology that they use internally, they will have a compelling offering.

Re:Alphabet slides 5% after missing earnings expectations on... by funkyy on Thursday April 21, 2016 @10:54PM (#11546781)
And yet they managed to make another complicated cloud service.

Would be nice if someone would cater for Startup owners that do not have time to study documentation and overlook multiple processes just to run a simple bot etc.

Re:Alphabet slides 5% after missing earnings expectations on... by matwood on Thursday April 21, 2016 @11:42PM (#11546923)
GCE is much simpler to use than EC2. Google came to the party late and they have seemed to take some time to not replicate AWSs annoyances.
Re:Alphabet slides 5% after missing earnings expectations on... by funkyy on Friday April 22, 2016 @08:58AM (#11548726)
The problem for me is that "much simpler" is not good enough. With DO for example when I go to their panel I never used it before it will take me tops 1 hour to find all the possible options, all perks and cons, everything. In just 1 hour.

I know, I know, AWS and Google Cloud is not DO and I agree. But would it hurt to introduce DO or Vultr style UX and make it easier for regular user to launch what he wants without all the expert language and need to jump in to documentation for hours?

Would button "Simple" and "Advanced" UI be really that hard to make?

I, as startup owner, dont really have time to focus on all the noise from large cloud providers, its easier to just launch 5 VPS with DO or Vultr and create my own infrastructure. And while I grow I doubt I will move my business to any of the cloud providers because I dont have time for it. Its easier to just build infrastructure on VPS's for $5 or just go for dedicated servers for backend.

Re:Alphabet slides 5% after missing earnings expectations on... by n13 on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:04AM (#11547001)
Would you please care to share learning resources about GCE other than the official docs?
Re:Alphabet slides 5% after missing earnings expectations on... by matt4077 on Friday April 22, 2016 @06:14AM (#11548131)
I've moved our infrastructure over to GCE and basically just clicked around in the interface until I had what I wanted. It's really quite easy (although I'm only using compute engine and bigtable right now).

I got 300$ in credits on every google account when I first vistited which allowed me to play around with their big data stuff and some public datasets, which was nice.

Re:Alphabet slides 5% after missing earnings expectations on... by rsync on Thursday April 21, 2016 @11:42PM (#11546922)
If only ...

If only there were cloud products and services that were dead simple and just did one little useful thing just the way you wanted it.

If only ...

Re:Alphabet slides 5% after missing earnings expectations on... by tluyben2 on Friday April 22, 2016 @02:05AM (#11547337)
That is nice in theory but nobody really wants that. In practice I do not want to run my app on 40 different services potentially owned by different companies. If you mean that inside one company is fine than I believe ec2, s3 etc seperately already provide what you say: if you would make them simpler it would get annoying as you would have to set up yet more services (within the same portal, which is a bit better) to get stuff done. I think the theory is nice to start off but I do not think there is a real market for 'dead simple with one little useful thing'. Then again: try it, who knows.
Re:Alphabet slides 5% after missing earnings expectations on... by rsync on Friday April 22, 2016 @11:41AM (#11550000)
"Then again: try it, who knows."

You know what, I think I will!

What should I call it ?

Re:Alphabet slides 5% after missing earnings expectations on... by tamana on Friday April 22, 2016 @12:51AM (#11547125)
What about when folks want lots of useful things?
Re:Alphabet slides 5% after missing earnings expectations on... by coldtea on Friday April 22, 2016 @07:09AM (#11548283)
Then they are outliers, and market themselves out of the 80/20 customer segment.
Re:Alphabet slides 5% after missing earnings expectations on... by empath75 on Thursday April 21, 2016 @09:07PM (#11546433)
If the ads business goes to shit, the cloud business takes a beating, also.
Re:Alphabet slides 5% after missing earnings expectations on... by arthurcolle on Thursday April 21, 2016 @09:54PM (#11546571)
Cloud is basically SaaS which is the antithesis of the advertisement model.

But okay, I guess you must know better.

Re:Alphabet slides 5% after missing earnings expectations on... by 1123581321 on Thursday April 21, 2016 @10:34PM (#11546713)
I believe the person to which you replied meant that a lot of cloud platforms/hosting revenue depends on ad-funded customers. If the customers go out of business and aren't replaced, subscription revenue suffers.