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Re:How I Hacked Facebook and Found Someone's Backdoor Script by d33 on Thursday April 21, 2016 @02:45PM (#11544424)
I'm not saying that we should go back to those times, I'm saying that we should be aiming for decentralization in the long run. It's not like the security paradigms we had back in the time are tied to decentralization. They're mostly tied to ignorance.
Re:How I Hacked Facebook and Found Someone's Backdoor Script by scrollaway on Thursday April 21, 2016 @03:03PM (#11544542)
Decentralization is great for many things but has little effect on security. Decentralized channels are not inherently safer.

Aside on self-hosting: This reminds me a lot of the self-driving car accident debate. Self-driving cars could be thousands of times more reliable than humans, but unless they are mathematically perfect, some people feel safer driving themselves because they feel they are in control. Nevermind that Google/Facebook etc have millions of man hours invested into security.

Re:How I Hacked Facebook and Found Someone's Backdoor Script by icebraining on Thursday April 21, 2016 @04:49PM (#11545242)
I don't think it's so much that decentralized systems are technically safer, but that the people who own and control the centralized ones have incentives to keep them unsafe (at least from themselves) whereas if each person runs its own server, the incentives are properly aligned for security.

In essence, it's an economic argument, not a technical one.

Re:How I Hacked Facebook and Found Someone's Backdoor Script by nemothekid on Thursday April 21, 2016 @06:27PM (#11545784)
>whereas if each person runs its own server, the incentives are properly aligned for security.

I don't see how this is true at all. Most people don't care/know about security. See Wordpress. Many companies don't take security seriously, there are many open mongodb pointing to the outside world - HackingTeam, a team chockfull of blackhat hackers, was partially done in by sloppy authentication and passwordless databases.

Today, when people run their own server, it doesn't seem the incentives are properly aligned at all - and given that even blackhat shops don't even take the time to secure their own systems properly, the economic argument falls flat.

Re:How I Hacked Facebook and Found Someone's Backdoor Script by Karunamon on Thursday April 21, 2016 @04:13PM (#11545019)
Decentralization in the context of social interaction services does not work. As long as the concept of a social network exist, people will connect to similar platforms.

It's been tried, again, and again, and again, and it fails for the same reason all such projects fail - the only people who care about this architecture stuff are those who are geeky enough to be running their own decentralized services.

Heading off the inevitable response: Email is not a social interaction service, it is a message passing service that happens to have social uses.

Re:How I Hacked Facebook and Found Someone's Backdoor Script by tamana on Friday April 22, 2016 @04:05PM (#11552212)
What is a social interaction service, ans why can't it be federated or peer to peer?
Re:How I Hacked Facebook and Found Someone's Backdoor Script by Karunamon on Saturday April 23, 2016 @12:54AM (#11554221)
Because not-techy people don't want to deal with the hassle of setting up and maintaining those things.