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Re:Facebook will set indie gaming back 5 years by patio11 on Thursday February 25, 2010 @08:53PM (#1152151)
I want games with substance and style, richly textured and thickly layered, with real character development and breathtaking artwork. I want games which remind me of good books.

I paid $70 for this game when it was called Final Fantasy 13 and had a development budget in the upper eight figures (in dollars, not yen). If you want this from a game with a development budget in the five or lower six figures which is only paid for by 1% of all players and does not have a viral loop baked into its DNA, you apparently want to be disappointed.

Re:Facebook will set indie gaming back 5 years by goplexian on Thursday February 25, 2010 @09:13PM (#1152183)
"substance and style, richly textured and thickly layered, with real character development and breathtaking artwork"

...in the context of indie games. Context is important.

Maybe take a look at Braid or Machinarium.