Re:The caffeine curse: why coffee shops have always signalle...
by golergka on Friday April 15, 2016 @11:05AM
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> (Your artists, musicians, students, young families, folks on shoestring budgets opening hipster coffee shops and restaurants, etc)
But eh — those guys actually have to move _in_ to gentrification to happen. And before they move in, it's usually really ordinary poor people moving out: because, believe it or not, "starving" liberal art major is not as poor as an illegal immigrant family with 5 kids.
> It's that nearly every lower-class or middle-class urban place that was even slightly nice to live in is rapidly becoming "rich-people-only". Where does that end?
I'm not from US, so I may not be seeing what you're talking about exactly, but you're talking about late-stage gentrifying here. But early stage gentrifying is the opposite: it makes poor, awful areas into those nice middle-class areas to begin with. So by the time you (we're talking about low-middle class, right?) have to move out when the area is full of elite condos, there's another neighbourhood that just became trendy enough for you to move it.
> Property owners can also get displaced through gentrification -- owning property does not make someone immune to this problem
Don't see a real difference here: it's all just free market mechanisms regulating situations where a lot of different people compete for the same thing.
But eh — those guys actually have to move _in_ to gentrification to happen. And before they move in, it's usually really ordinary poor people moving out: because, believe it or not, "starving" liberal art major is not as poor as an illegal immigrant family with 5 kids.
> It's that nearly every lower-class or middle-class urban place that was even slightly nice to live in is rapidly becoming "rich-people-only". Where does that end?
I'm not from US, so I may not be seeing what you're talking about exactly, but you're talking about late-stage gentrifying here. But early stage gentrifying is the opposite: it makes poor, awful areas into those nice middle-class areas to begin with. So by the time you (we're talking about low-middle class, right?) have to move out when the area is full of elite condos, there's another neighbourhood that just became trendy enough for you to move it.
> Property owners can also get displaced through gentrification -- owning property does not make someone immune to this problem
Don't see a real difference here: it's all just free market mechanisms regulating situations where a lot of different people compete for the same thing.