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Re:NASA Is Trying to Grow Potatoes on Mars by yincrash on Thursday April 14, 2016 @12:49AM (#11494365)
An interesting piece of trivia, while potatoes are in cuisine across the world now, they are native to the Americas (which is briefly mentioned in the article). It's ability to feed many (being caloricly dense), as well as being fairly rugged allowed it to create Europe's population boom and urbanization when it was introduced there. Let's hope the same can be done to Mars!
Re:NASA Is Trying to Grow Potatoes on Mars by JorgeGT on Thursday April 14, 2016 @03:45AM (#11494943)
However in many places people were unsure if they were fit for human consumption! For instance the Paris Faculty of Medicine only declared them edible in 1772 mainly by the efforts of Antoine-Augustin Parmentier.

He did publicity stunts such as potato dinners featuring honorable gusts like Lavoisier and Benjamin Franklin, or (my favorite) surrounding his potato garden with lots of guards... only to instruct them to accept any bribe and be extra sloppy guarding the garden, allowing interested villagers to "steal" the potatoes.

Re:NASA Is Trying to Grow Potatoes on Mars by kriro on Thursday April 14, 2016 @08:45AM (#11496146)
Frederick the Great's "potato marketing" is a pretty great story. He was convinced the potato would help grow and nourish the population so he tried to enact it as "people food" via law. The people did not take to it. He then devised the genius plan of having potato fields guarded by soldiers who were secretly told to take naps and/or sleep at night and let people steal the potatoes. People being people some citizens figured it must be valuable and great stuff if it's guarded and the "hot new food of kings" spread pretty quickly.

There's usually potatoes on his grave to this day :)

Re:NASA Is Trying to Grow Potatoes on Mars by erikb on Thursday April 14, 2016 @08:21AM (#11496005)
Bribable guards. What a genius marketing campaign!
Re:NASA Is Trying to Grow Potatoes on Mars by ekianjo on Thursday April 14, 2016 @03:12AM (#11494831)
> It's ability to feed many (being caloricly dense), as well as being fairly rugged allowed it to create Europe's population boom and urbanization when it was introduced there

But don't forget to mention that Potato issues have caused massive immigration from Ireland in History (resulting in a large influx of Irish folks to North America):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_(Ireland)

Re:NASA Is Trying to Grow Potatoes on Mars by irish_lad on Thursday April 14, 2016 @04:29AM (#11495081)
True but let's not put all the blame on the potato. During the Famine years Ireland was a net exporter of food...
Re:NASA Is Trying to Grow Potatoes on Mars by masklinn on Thursday April 14, 2016 @06:26AM (#11495474)
And the irish reliance on potato was directly caused by the english Penal Laws under which until the late 18th century catholics were forbidden many thing[0], including getting an education, purchasing land, long land leases (more than 31 years), primogeniture (catholic land had to be equally divided between all sons unless the eldest converted to protestantism, which would quickly lead to fragmentation and plots too small to feed their owner… which could then only be bought by protestant absentee landlords since other catholics were barred from buying them, you can see its success in irish catholic holdings falling from 25% of Ireland in 1688 to 5% in 1776).

The Penal Laws were indeed

> a machine of wise and elaborate contrivance, as well fitted for the oppression, impoverishment and degradation of a people, and the debasement in them of human nature itself, as ever proceeded from the perverted ingenuity of man.

[0] you can hear the evil cackling in the background as you go down the list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_Laws_(Ireland)#Ascendanc...

Re:NASA Is Trying to Grow Potatoes on Mars by johnchristopher on Thursday April 14, 2016 @06:05AM (#11495399)
But was it food that could have fed the population or luxury food (spices, cacao or something like coffee beans) ?
Re:NASA Is Trying to Grow Potatoes on Mars by irish_lad on Thursday April 14, 2016 @06:28AM (#11495479)
No it was your typical farm food (cattle, grain etc.). Most of these shipments were under armed guard by British soldiers. There was no shortage of food. Whilst the famine itself was devastating, the results were politically motivated and driven.
Re:NASA Is Trying to Grow Potatoes on Mars by masklinn on Thursday April 14, 2016 @06:33AM (#11495494)
Grains and other edible crops (peas, onions), livestock, processed meat and produce (between January 1847 and September 1847, Ireland exported more than 7 million pounds of butter).
Re:NASA Is Trying to Grow Potatoes on Mars by lmm on Thursday April 14, 2016 @06:39AM (#11495519)
It was food that could have fed the population. In particular corn/wheat/other grains.
Re:NASA Is Trying to Grow Potatoes on Mars by GFK_of_xmaspast on Thursday April 14, 2016 @09:18PM (#11501454)
Are you familiar with (a) the climate of Ireland in the 19th century and (b) the growing conditions demanded by (most) spices, cacao, and coffee beans?
Re:NASA Is Trying to Grow Potatoes on Mars by johnchristopher on Friday April 15, 2016 @05:55AM (#11503183)
Yes, I am.
Re:NASA Is Trying to Grow Potatoes on Mars by GFK_of_xmaspast on Friday April 15, 2016 @07:45AM (#11503542)
Then why would you have wondered if Ireland could have grown those things.
Re:NASA Is Trying to Grow Potatoes on Mars by johnchristopher on Friday April 15, 2016 @01:07PM (#11505904)
I did not. These were just typical examples to illustrate what I had in mind when asking about any homegrown Irish luxury food (I don't know if Ireland has any). Hence the « or something like coffee beans ».
Re:NASA Is Trying to Grow Potatoes on Mars by prawn on Thursday April 14, 2016 @03:56AM (#11494977)
Whereas some things are fairly straightforward to grow from their own last-crop seeds, resowing potatoes from some you already have often results in disease.

I grow a lot of different things in my backyard. From one lettuce, coriander, radish, pumpkin or tomato plant, I can collect loads and loads of seeds to regrow. In the case of a lettuce plant, it's thousands of seeds.

Potatoes are trivial to grow from old shrivelled supermarket stock (and sometimes scraps with the eyes intact) but 80+% of crops I've grown this way have been riddled internally with disease.

Pictures here: https://www.google.com.au/search?q=potato+disease&source=lnm...

Re:NASA Is Trying to Grow Potatoes on Mars by HeyLaughingBoy on Thursday April 14, 2016 @01:19PM (#11498620)
Seed potatoes are so inexpensive, it's not worth using old potatoes (though I have done that many times).

I don't know where you live, but around here supermarkets will soon be selling 5lb bags of seed potatoes at comically low prices. It is ridiculously cheap to grow some staples: I can buy 100 onion sets for $2.00/bag at my local "pricy" feed store. Enough corn to plant an acre costs about $5, etc...