Re:Uber says it gave U.S. agencies data on more than 12M users
by username223 on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @10:28PM
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Any pointers to your data collection and retention policies? After all, if you don't have it, you can't give it.
Re:Uber says it gave U.S. agencies data on more than 12M users
by matt4077 on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @11:54PM
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I'm pretty sure the principle doesn't apply here, as these are known regulations requiring the retention and transmission of data, not post-hoc warrants etc. It's like the IRS requiring you to keep receipts.
Re:Uber says it gave U.S. agencies data on more than 12M users
by arca_vorago on Wednesday April 13, 2016 @01:35AM
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Right, which is exactly why he is asking for collection policy, aka, what data are you getting in the first place?
Re:Uber says it gave U.S. agencies data on more than 12M users
by true_religion on Wednesday April 13, 2016 @04:51AM
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If its anything like most companies data retention boils down to "we keep everything that someone decided to log in an adhoc fashion, and we keep it forever unless we run out of disk space then we delete it again in an adhoc fashion".
Re:Uber says it gave U.S. agencies data on more than 12M users
by abrookewood on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @07:23PM
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What are CPUC & TLC?
Re:Uber says it gave U.S. agencies data on more than 12M users
by jakelarkin on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @07:31PM
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CPUC is the state regulator of "Transportation Network Companies" (Uber, Lyft etc.) since 2013
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Public_Utilities_Co...
Re:Uber says it gave U.S. agencies data on more than 12M users
by function_seven on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @07:25PM
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California Public Utilities Commission and the Taxi & Limousine Commission
Re:Uber says it gave U.S. agencies data on more than 12M users
by tlrobinson on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @07:26PM
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Easily Googleable regulatory authorities in California and New York.
Re:Uber says it gave U.S. agencies data on more than 12M users
by bcook on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @09:05PM
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and perhaps even more relevantly defined in an HN post...
Re:Uber says it gave U.S. agencies data on more than 12M users
by conradev on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @11:14PM
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Do you know to what degree the data is anonymized?
Re:Uber says it gave U.S. agencies data on more than 12M users
by hydromet on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @11:43PM
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And just think ... Uber and (mostly Silicon Valley) companies like it thought all along how easy it would be for "software to eat the world" and thus merely "disrupt" the establishment, "disrupt" the old school, "disrupt" and "democratize", "disrupt" the 1%'ers / elite power structures which pull the puppet strings of the state and federal regulators. Meritocracy eh?
the 12M users are mostly demands from regulatory authorities
- 6M is California, likely CPUC
- 3M is New York, probably the TLC there
that's how you get the data sets for analysis like http://toddwschneider.com/posts/analyzing-1-1-billion-nyc-ta... which appear on HN periodically and are eagerly upvoted
the regulators make this a requirement for Uber to open or continue operating in their respective regions. Uber tries to negotiate a narrow scope for info disclosure as much as possible.
(disclaimer: uber employee)