Poor New Yorkers Tend to Live Longer Than Other Poor Americans

Re:Poor New Yorkers Tend to Live Longer Than Other Poor Amer... by lr4444lr on Monday April 11, 2016 @12:18PM (#11472628)

The findings underscore public health research showing that healthy habits matter. The JAMA paper found that several measures of access to medical care had no clear relationship with longevity among the poor. But there were correlations with smoking, exercise and obesity. ... The city also imposed novel regulations on restaurants and food, banning trans fats that are associated with heart disease, and requiring chain restaurants to post calorie counts on menus. Efforts to tax or limit soda sales were unsuccessful, but public campaigns to discourage unhealthy eating were widespread.

The implication is that the nanny state has to step in because the poor don't exercise personal responsibility as diligently as the non-poor. Sad.

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Re:Poor New Yorkers Tend to Live Longer Than Other Poor Amer... by kaonashi on Monday April 11, 2016 @12:32PM (#11472781)

Yea, has nothing to do with the relative costs of each type of food.

I've also heard people bitch about seeing SNAP-card holders shop at Whole Foods, so I guess both choices are wrong.

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Re:Poor New Yorkers Tend to Live Longer Than Other Poor Amer... by cylinder on Monday April 11, 2016 @03:56PM (#11474614)

Literally just saw this an hour ago. When SNAP carders are spending freely on Whole Foods prepared meals I'd never touch, and I'm walking around the city for 30min trying to find a decent lunch under $8, I find my anger to be reasonable.

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Re:Poor New Yorkers Tend to Live Longer Than Other Poor Amer... by elthran on Monday April 11, 2016 @12:20PM (#11472648)

Or are these people poor /because/ they don't exercise personal responsibility as diligently? I can easily see the arguments for the causation going either way

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Re:Poor New Yorkers Tend to Live Longer Than Other Poor Amer... by lr4444lr on Monday April 11, 2016 @12:23PM (#11472687)

Yes, that's part of the implication the findings appear to make. I don't see what you're saying differently.

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Re:Poor New Yorkers Tend to Live Longer Than Other Poor Amer... by loudin on Monday April 11, 2016 @12:25PM (#11472705)

Which is completely absurd because not only were many of these laws recently enacted, but their the efficacy of some rules is also questionable (most notably the calorie count law).

I wouldn't be surprised if most of the difference cited by this study was due to walking. I know that I've had to exert extra effort living in SF to be more active than I had to when I lived in NYC.

I wonder if there will be a follow-up study looking into the actual reasons why life expectancy is higher in NYC.

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Re:Poor New Yorkers Tend to Live Longer Than Other Poor Amer... by wutbrodo on Tuesday April 12, 2016 @09:16AM (#11479240)

> I wouldn't be surprised if most of the difference cited by this study was due to walking. I know that I've had to exert extra effort living in SF to be more active than I had to when I lived in NYC.

Wow I find this kinda surprising. I walk more or less as much in sf as in NY, if only because roughly 100% of the time, the weather is comfortable enough to enjoy walking in (as opposed to Manhattan in the summer.... Or the winter).

Then again, I think my house is unusually well connected to transit, so maybe where you live transit+walking isn't as feasible an option.

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Re:Poor New Yorkers Tend to Live Longer Than Other Poor Amer... by locopati on Monday April 11, 2016 @12:30PM (#11472747)

Easy to judge when you're doing well, eh?

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